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Coldest December since late 1800s?
www.worldnetdaily.c ^ | December 13, 2005

Posted on 12/14/2005 5:30:36 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Coldest December since late 1800s? Meteorologist's claim comes on heels of climate-warming summit in Canada

Posted: December 13, 2005 9:42 p.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com A weather expert says December 2005 is on pace to become one of the 10 coldest in more than 100 years, despite claims at a global conference on climate change this week that the Earth is getting warmer.

Joe Bastardi, senior meteorologist with Accuweather.com, says present weather patterns across the country show below-normal temperatures in the single digits, with still colder air forecast in the coming weeks.

All told, he said, "the current look and pace may bring December 2005 in as a top 10 month for cold Decembers nationwide since the late 1800s."

Some examples of the abnormally cold temps include: Omaha, Neb., (17.5 degrees below normal); Indianapolis, Ind., (14.1 degrees below normal); Chicago, Ill., (13.9 degrees below normal); and Denver, Colo., (11.9 degrees below normal).

"The cold is widespread, with below-normal temperatures recorded from eastern Washington and Oregon south into Texas and into the Northeast," said the weather service.

And it could get worse. Accuweather.com "is forecasting another week of unseasonably cold weather, with the potential for another major snowstorm developing on Wednesday."

While the current weather pattern may be considered anecdotal by some, it is timely nonetheless, as it comes on the heels of a United Nations-sponsored event in which most of the more than 150 nations participating claimed the world is getting warmer – a phenomenon most blamed on the United States.

Washington was the most frequent target of criticism over the course of the two-week summit in Montreal, Canada, where participants blamed the U.S. for being the world's largest contributor of harmful atmospheric emissions some experts say are increasing, on average, global temperatures.

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To: ElTianti

it was 16 at my house this morning even AFTER the sun came up! The wind chill was 9. If this is global warming, I'd hate to see when it is considered cold!!


61 posted on 12/14/2005 7:06:00 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV (Merry CHRISTmas y'all!)
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To: Esther Ruth

Yeah, it is 56 in Orlando - we are about 10 degrees below normal. I'm freezing.


62 posted on 12/14/2005 7:06:27 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: Dilbert56

63 posted on 12/14/2005 7:08:52 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: Esther Ruth

I've been telling people for the past few months that this will be a cold one. But that was just based on all the clinically obese squirrels that have been crossing my yard and having apparent trouble getting back up to their nests. Haven't read the Farmer's Almanac and didn't see the color patterns on the woolly bear caterpillars this year, but our neighborhood squirrels have been looking like candidates for a fat farm.


64 posted on 12/14/2005 7:13:24 AM PST by katana
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To: capt. norm
It's like a nightly lesson that only the first two or three days on the "7-day forecast" are going to turn out as predicted.
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Seems most of the time they don't even get the next two days right any more. None of them. Temps seem off 10-15 degrees. All summer they kept showing forecasts in 80s and it would end up in 90s and they gave up after awhile even mentioning it.
65 posted on 12/14/2005 7:14:48 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: capt. norm
I've noticed that the global warming advocates have very bad timing with current weather. The near-term forecast is beyond their abilities and yet they want us to believe they can forecast for the long-term.

Actually, that is what you would expect. Predicting individual data points is hard; extrapolating a trend is more reliable.

66 posted on 12/14/2005 7:18:10 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Esther Ruth
It's really freezy here in the Sout'.

My nipples are bursting with delight.

67 posted on 12/14/2005 7:18:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Liberals screwed again: HOLIDAY derives from the words Holy Day. NOW what will they do?)
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To: katana
LOL! I trust the squirrels!
68 posted on 12/14/2005 7:19:26 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV (Merry CHRISTmas y'all!)
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To: katana

Maybe the squirrels are peaking through our windows and watching the global warming news reports and are all stressed out, hording food. The lies on the TV are affecting them also - it is terrible.
Or maybe they see us shopping and hording in case of a nuclear catastrophe and are doing likewise.
Either way - we need a government programs to help the squirrels.


69 posted on 12/14/2005 7:22:51 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Not sure why you wouldn't trust a Harvard MD on science.

Because "science" is a massive field covering many different disciplines, and there are scientists who have spent a lifetime working on the subjects Crichton decides to dip his toe into. Crichton's credibility with the public comes from his fiction, not his work on climate change. I wouldn't trust an engineer to talk to me about biology and a doctor is only a notch above a layman when it comes to dealing with subjects he has no training in.

You can find references to say just about anything; the question is whether those references have been peer-reviewed and not been superseded by more recent research. Someone who is a dilettante in a subject can not get the familiarity with the research to assess whether is cite is the most current and accepted wisdom on a subject or a maverick work that fails duplication tests.
70 posted on 12/14/2005 7:24:31 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Lazamataz

Well, for goodness sakes, be careful, you never know what they may do next. Frightening times these are.


71 posted on 12/14/2005 7:25:31 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: Commander Salamander
You lost me as soon as you used MSNBC as a source.

A shame, because MSNBC didn't conduct the research, they reported on the study conducted by a reputable group. If you want to accuse them of misrepresenting the study, please prove it, otherwise, you're the one in the untenable position.
72 posted on 12/14/2005 7:25:59 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Esther Ruth
Well, for goodness sakes, be careful, you never know what they may do next. Frightening times these are.

I'm hoping my nipples grow propellors, then I can fly around town doing Action-Live Traffic Reports.

73 posted on 12/14/2005 7:27:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (Liberals screwed again: HOLIDAY derives from the words Holy Day. NOW what will they do?)
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To: Taliesan

Yeah, I've been there. I retired after 33 years as a meteorologist.


74 posted on 12/14/2005 7:32:56 AM PST by capt. norm (Beware of the "White-Flag Democrats"...we all know who they are.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Last night, it was forecast to chill to 2 degrees overnight here in the Upper Connecticut River valley (NH/Vermont border). We woke up this morning to a bone-chilling ELEVEN BELOW ZERO. Weather forecast = worthless. ...and people still believe they can "forecast" global warming? (Oil bills will be astronomical in NE this winter...moving back south in the spring.)


75 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:52 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: HostileTerritory
I don't understand why people are in denial about this--the Earth is getting warmer.

People THINK it's getting warmer.

76 posted on 12/14/2005 7:43:31 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Esther Ruth

77 posted on 12/14/2005 7:43:53 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: HostileTerritory
The statistics are for GLOBAL mean temperature. 2004 was the fourth-warmest year on record, and the ten hottest years on record have all taken place since 1990.

How old are the records --- 80 - 100 years? Do we have any reliable data on exactly how warm or cold it was on say December 14, 1955, in any remote area of the globe? If so, how reliable was the instrument used? If not, how can we say it is warmer or cooler today?

How reliable are the records? Does the reliability of "global temp" records decrease when we go back 10, 15, 30, 50 years?

You note that every year we seem to have more tornadoes reported. But is that because we are having more tornadoes, or is because we now have the nation literally blanketed with Doppler radar, a technology that did not exist 20 years ago, that can detect every tornado even those in remote areas that cause no damage and had no witnesses?

From what I see when we discuss global climat, we have at best 10-20 years of reliable "global" measurements with which to compare data from any given year. Making claims on long term trends with such slim data is silly.

78 posted on 12/14/2005 7:44:53 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: katana
Haven't read the Farmer's Almanac and didn't see the color patterns on the woolly bear caterpillars this year, but our neighborhood squirrels have been looking like candidates for a fat farm.

Fat squirrels in my area too, but that may have something to do with the piles of cracked corn and sunflower seeds that I leave outside for them. Great entertainment for my three cats. :-)

79 posted on 12/14/2005 7:49:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: Esther Ruth

The thing of it is, I wish all the global warming alarmists were right. I don't care to have a repeat of the icy days of my youth here in the upper half of the contiguous fortyeight. Plus I feel that warming the planet will be better than cooling. Especially in Wisconsin.


80 posted on 12/14/2005 8:09:23 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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