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Refugees from a stricken suburb [Arab youths target women and families in Sydney neighborhood]
The [NSW, Australia] Daily Telegraph ^ | December 14, 2005 | Steve Gee

Posted on 12/14/2005 12:58:45 AM PST by Heatseeker

SOME are hunkering down to brave out the nights of terror. For others the rioting, baseball bats and fear of rape and murder have proved too much to bear.

But life won't be the same for anyone living in the one-time beachside idyll of Cronulla.

Already some families are packing their bags - the first refugees of Sydney's ugliest race attacks.

Those who are staying are living in fear of where the next wave of attacks will occur.

Construction worker Howard Beale, whose family survived a frightening raid by youths of Middle Eastern descent on Monday night, is at breaking point.

His work truck was set alight, a shovel thrown through his bedroom window and two family cars trashed.

As shocking as the attack was, the Beales are grappling with a more profound loss of something they once took for granted - their freedom.

"I'm going to be very wary now. You have to think about what you do, and where you go and when you do it," said the father of two.

"My daughter only works [nearby] but she won't be walking home anymore ... it's too dangerous.

"I think a lot of people will be changing their [lifestyle]. You don't know when they will return."

It's not simply the fear of the hoons returning, but the small changes to what was a blissful life beside Cronulla beach.

Mr Beale, who moved from Caringbah five years ago, said he was now considering leaving Cronulla. "I thought this was nice, quiet Cronulla ... it's always been peaceful and quiet here.

"If it keeps up we'll move for sure."

One couple has already made that decision.

Mick and Donna told The Daily Telegraph they were forced to shield their two young sons on the floor of their unit after it was attacked on Monday night.

The family yesterday packed their belongings to stay with relatives at Picnic Point amid fears the gangs would return.

"We are not staying here now. We are going to stay with relatives at least until this settles down," Mick said.

"We love it here but we have to worry about the kids," he said of his sons, aged one and four.

The couple were watching TV in their unit on The Kingsway when they went to investigate what sounded like gunfire and breaking glass shortly after 10pm.

The gangs descended on Cronulla down The Kingsway in up to 90 cars, with between five and six thugs intermittently jumping out armed with baseball bats, metal bars and sticks.

Mick watched in shock as a group of men began smashing a Commodore parked outside, before they turned their attention to the unit block, which they pelted with rocks.

Donna took the two children to a back room as the hoods taunted occupants to come outside and fight.

"I don't think I have ever been so scared in my life," said the primary school teacher.

Across Cronulla, young women spoke of their fear that they had become the main targets of youths of Middle Eastern descent in revenge attacks on their suburb.

"I'm the cliche of a young, blonde, tanned blue-eyed beach girl," one young woman, who asked not to be named, told The Daily Telegraph.

"In the past few weeks I've received threats from a gang of Lebanese men from the Eastern Suburbs," she said.

"They say: 'Watch your back, don't go out in the dark."'

"I don't want to live in fear of the gangs. I want them to leave me alone, I want my freedom back. I don't want to cry anymore."

TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; cronulla; easternsuburbs; newsouthwales; nsw; sydney; sydneyriots
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Let us hope this is not the shape of things to come.
1 posted on 12/14/2005 12:58:46 AM PST by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker

How's the gun ban workin' for ya, mate?

2 posted on 12/14/2005 1:00:18 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Heatseeker

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will pull them for the ones who didn't."

3 posted on 12/14/2005 1:01:58 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Heatseeker
Too bad the government made it no longer possible to just shoot the sacks of crap.

Wonder if these people voted for the gun ban?

4 posted on 12/14/2005 1:02:45 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Wormwood
Heh, I'm in the US. I assume concealed carry is illegal in Australia. It might serve as the only real deterrent.
5 posted on 12/14/2005 1:03:09 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: Heatseeker

Why refuse to nuke em when they would nuke us if they could.

So why would they stop.

End political correctness and wipe out the muslim religion, period. It is evil.

6 posted on 12/14/2005 1:03:43 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Heatseeker
Heh, I'm in the US. I assume concealed carry is illegal in Australia. It might serve as the only real deterrent.

Yes, they made guns illegal in Australia. But the Muslims have them. The police are afraid of the Muslims and stay away when they are riled up.

7 posted on 12/14/2005 1:06:27 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Heatseeker

If they move, the left-wing press will whine about white flight. They will refuse to acknowledge any connection with these attacks and people moving away. And if they do, then they will blame white racism.

8 posted on 12/14/2005 1:08:34 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Bon mots
Yes, they made guns illegal in Australia.

No, they did not. I'm carrying one at the moment as it happens, and I have more in my house. All totally legal.

Some weapons are subject to fairly strict controls (and I have a couple of those - it took some paperwork). Many are not that hard to own at all.

9 posted on 12/14/2005 1:10:16 AM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Heatseeker

Some police force they ave there. All they are good for is threatening the Locals, and run like cowards when the Muzzies show up. Looks like the locals are going to have to take matters into their own hands again.

10 posted on 12/14/2005 1:12:21 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Forte Runningrock

I think it's unfair to blame the police, who, I suspect, were simply overwhelmed.

11 posted on 12/14/2005 1:14:28 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: JudgemAll

I agree. What more has to happen before the civilized world wakes up and unites against this scum?

12 posted on 12/14/2005 1:15:18 AM PST by Octar
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To: Heatseeker

Unfair to blame the police? What is the good of them then if they can't protect the public? What are they paid for?
Abandon the public they are supposed to protect?? Leave them to Immigrant gangs?? Fire them all!!!

13 posted on 12/14/2005 1:18:50 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Heatseeker

It's starting....

14 posted on 12/14/2005 1:27:40 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: Forte Runningrock
It was the police in the seashore suburb of Cronulla who were overwhelmed I think. Aussie FReepers can correct me if I am wrong (entirely possible) but I believe I've read somewhere that Cronulla is the only beach town served by commuter rail from greater metropolitan Sydney.
15 posted on 12/14/2005 1:29:33 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: Octar
These gangs are not used to living in a democratic life style, so why should they care about you and your safety. They have nothing to lose, the don't care, and treat each like animals. Animals kill animals. That is why we must win in IRAQ! We all can't live in the US, UK, Japan, Australia, Germany and similar free countries. Somewhere and somehow, we need to ensure that people can live in their own country and have the freedom and respect that we honor..... with our lives.
16 posted on 12/14/2005 1:30:32 AM PST by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: naturalman1975
I was researching settlement history and patterns of the Lebanese in Australia and came across this page which seems to fit with what I already suspect - that the pattern is similar to immigration into the US in that only the most recent waves were primarily Muslim. But I'd like the opinion of a native son.
17 posted on 12/14/2005 1:35:15 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: naturalman1975

Australians were forced to surrender 640,381 guns including semiautomatic .22s at a cost of $500 million dollars.

18 posted on 12/14/2005 1:39:58 AM PST by bessay
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To: Heatseeker
...I think it's unfair to blame the police, who, I suspect, were simply overwhelmed....

I'm a police officer - and I am scared

This open letter, from an anonymous police officer, was being distributed to locals in Cronulla yesterday

December 14, 2005

I AM a NSW police officer with more than 17 years' experience and I tell you that I am scared.

I am scared to do my job and I don't blame the community for taking the law into their own hands.

In the late '80s when I first joined the police force, I saw how the old school police did things. I agree there was corruption and things had to change, but what the Government, judicial system and ultimately society did to the police force was just disgraceful.

In days gone by, if there was a group of hoodlums hanging around intimidating people outside a pub, two 6'2" burly coppers would turn up in a big F100 truck.

The way they spoke, their stature, respect and how they dealt with these hoodlums gave them real power and not some weak piece of legislation given to them by some reactionary Government.

If these hoodlums hadn't already run off because they knew what was coming, they would cop a flogging, a kick up the bum, a slap over the head. The young kids were afraid of the police and that's how we controlled and protected the community.

Fear is the only thing a young male understands. That real power is now lost forever.

Let's look at how the new police force would handle the same job.

Firstly, we changed our name to a "service" because it was aggressive to use the word "force". We send two small female officers, wearing silly little yellow caps.

If we want to move these thugs out of the area, we have a very strict procedure we must follow. We have to announce our name and place of duty. The thug laughs and starts calling us by our first name.

We have to tell them why they have to move on. We have to warn them that if they fail to move on, they may be arrested.

If there is more than one thug, we have to do this to each one.

They tell us they don't speak English, start stating their rights and call their friends by mobile phone to come to the location.

The process we have just started doesn't work with a drunk who wants to argue - it just makes it more confusing.

We have to make detailed notes of the conversation and caution them not to say or do anything in case it incriminates them.

Each time we use a power, we have to tell the hoodlum what it is and why we are doing it.

From the very outset, they have the upper hand and it continues. They have the real power ... we have pretend power.

If we do decide to arrest them, we have to be so careful not to grab their arms too hard or wrestle them to the ground because it may graze their legs or rip their jeans.

The thugs will allege we damaged their phones, took $50 from their wallets, swore at them, put the handcuffs on too tight.

When they get back to the police station, they complain to a supervisor who now starts to investigate us.

The whole charging process takes hours in a run-down police station with computers that don't work.

So we charge them with offensive language, assault police, resist arrest and put them before the court.

A local magistrate is presiding over the matter. After 30 minutes in court, the charges are dismissed and the recommendations made that the police should be charged with assault and sent to jail for six months.

We are told we should expect to be sworn at, called a pig and stood over by thugs.

The complaint and civil action lingers on for 18 months as it goes from the Ombudsman to ICAC and PIC. The thug has got off the charges, winks his eye and smiles at me as he walks out of court.

That's the justice that we have that goes on every day in many local courts in NSW.

Can you see why I am scared? >p> Do you think I am going to arrest someone, come next Friday or Saturday night, with all that rubbish going on?

I am going to take my time getting to the job, hope the thugs leave before I arrive and stand there and take the abuse. I hear my commanders saying we will uphold the law to the letter. Easy for them to say, but it just doesn't happen.

If we were fair dinkum, we would have hundreds of arrests and charges every day.

Have a look at the promotion system. Junior police being promoted in front of other senior police with 20 years' experience, because they can answer a question in an interview better.

Everyone is looking after themselves. We are no longer a team versus the thugs. It is me alone versus police management versus the thugs.

You have seen the quality of our senior police leaders. They wouldn't last long in private enterprise.

After the stuff-ups of the Redfern riot - an absolute disgrace in operational policing - we heard senior police say "we will learn from this".

Not a year later, Macquarie Fields. The same mistakes and stuff-ups.

Listen to the commissioner as he talks. It is all reactionary policing.

Why didn't Intel pick this up earlier? Why weren't measures put in place earlier? Because the problems have been going on for years.

The police out there have poor morale, equipment and training. We aren't united as a team - everyone has their own agenda and we are scared.

We have the weak, ambiguous powers the Government says we have to have and a judicial system that just defies logic.

I totally understand why young men feel they have to take the law into their own hands. I don't trust, and have very little loyalty in, the police service and the court system.

19 posted on 12/14/2005 1:41:35 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (
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To: Heatseeker

you may fire when ready gridley

20 posted on 12/14/2005 1:41:48 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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