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Iraqi Voter: Anybody Who Doesn’t Appreciate America Can Go To Hell (VIDEO)
The Political Teen ^ | December 13, 2005

Posted on 12/13/2005 6:50:22 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

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To: nicmarlo
Please do bring the cool-aid, I am not drinking it. Maybe in a galaxy far far far away will we find those weapons of mass destruction, but not in the sands of Iraq. I was in the military during the buildup to the war, and it so naive to believe anything could have stop our march to war,oh, short of Saddam putting a bullet in his brain. There was various levels, including advanced planing, in the works before the UN or Congress approved the invasion. The psychological and informational warfare started years before. So, don't tell me anything could have stopped that war, you would be the original cool-aid drinker if you did. BUT AGAIN, IT IS A MOOT POINT NOW, WE HAVE TO WIN THIS THING NOW.
101 posted on 12/14/2005 4:56:29 PM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: aligncare
I think if we had focused on Afghanistan and not Iraq. Bin Laden would be sings with the virgins right now, and whole lot of Iraqis would still be alive. Not blaming the US here, it was only an unintended and sad result of the war. The kind of thing that happens in war.

I think strictly on a moral level it was a good idea to take out Saddam, but geopolitics isn't a moral game. Note, I am not saying that the end result might be something spectacular, namely democracy across the Muslim world. I would celebrate that outcome from the highest mountain. However, Iraq during Saddam wasn't swimming with terrorists and there was good chance his government would have fallen anyway. We will never know if would have.
102 posted on 12/14/2005 5:07:05 PM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: prairiebreeze
I will celebrate them as well and hope that the day we can leave will come soon. When you save a life you take responsibility for it, I once heard that somewhere. That is my point.
103 posted on 12/14/2005 5:09:52 PM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: Kuehn12

Because you don't agree that Saddam violated UN resolutions, year after year after year, time and time again, does not make me the one who drinks kook-aid.


104 posted on 12/14/2005 5:31:22 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Stultis
...I'm sure there were a lot of different opinions to be found in the voting populace...

...Not at the polls, these people are happy to be voting. Get it?

105 posted on 12/14/2005 7:51:27 PM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: Kuehn12
...However, Iraq during Saddam wasn't swimming with terrorists and there was good chance his government would have fallen anyway...

The Islamofascists have been mounting ever-bolder attacks against the west for 35 years. It escalated tragically on 9-11.

At this point - the world changes. There is no more status quo, no kicking the can down the road.

Al Qiaeda grew bolder and continued waging war and forming alliances. Saddam supported terrorists and had always been a threat to the region.

Yeah, there was good chance his government would have fallen anyway...to the terrorists.

106 posted on 12/14/2005 8:41:35 PM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: aligncare

YES! This is the icing on our side's cake!

Liberals want justification for the war? They want to know what noble cause we're fighting for? They think our troops are dying for nothing and want them to just quit? The traitors need to see this.

And to think that liberals believe America is just an evil corporate empire that's cruely "occupying" Iraq and that we're "the real terrorists." As I said, Michael Moore, Howard Dean, Cindy Sheehan, and the entire DNC absolutely NEED TO SEE THIS!

Damn, I'm proud to be living in Bush's America! God bless him, the United States and all who love and support her!


107 posted on 12/15/2005 7:53:23 AM PST by Right-Wing Champion (God Bless the USA)
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To: Right-Wing Champion
Very well said, Right-Wing Champion! I love my adopted country, the greatest, most generous nation on earth...America!

Democracy is on the march in the Middle East. (Note to democrat skeptics: We are safer now because Iraq is one less potential state sponsor of terrorism.)

I remember a time when good, hard working democrats used to support the country in efforts to spread democracy. It used to be so, in JFK's time...But, no more.
108 posted on 12/15/2005 8:58:46 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: aligncare
We will never know, perhaps the whole state would have fallen apart. Those questions and others are best left to historians to debate. One thing is for sure, Saddam was never keen on sharing power. So, It is my guess that if he did have dealing with terrorists it was only on the margins because these jihadist are not secular like he was. They would have interest in undermining such governments through out the region.

You have just said the magic words that helped to start the war. That there is an implication that Saddam was connected to 9/11, and there is no proof or evidence to back that assumption up. Even the most ardent supporters of the war have discounted that now.
109 posted on 12/15/2005 9:10:49 AM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: nicmarlo
Yes, he did violate UN sanctions for 12 years, but that was the disconnection I couldn't never understand. All he had to is play by rules and he could have keep America at bay, but cheat and cheat he did. I am not a psychiatrist and can't understand the insane machinations Saddam was going through, and perhaps it was all a rouse. He got rid of the weapons in early 90s and was using the ambiguity to instill fear through out the region. Whatever the case may have been the facts are; the UN inspected, the Army WMD team search for more than a year, and they found nothing.
(caps for emphasis not yelling)
BUT NONE OF THIS IVORY TOWER DEBATE MATTERS, WE ARE AT WAR NOW, AND FINDING A WAY TO VICTORY IS ALL THAT MATTERS. I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE LIBS THAT IS GOING TO RE-LIVE THE WAR DEBATE ELECTION CYCLE AFTER ELECTION CYCLE. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE NOW. (I only cap for emphasis), MY ONLY POINT IS RELIEVE THE RIGHT OF ITS NAIVATE, BUSH WANTED TO GO TO WAR AND HE DIDN'T LIE. HOWEVER, HE SEVERILY BIASED THE PROCESS, AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHY, AT LEAST WITH ANY DIFFINITY. PERHAPS IT WAS THE BEST STRATEGY TO DEFEAT THE TERRIORIST WORLD WIDE, SPREAD DEMOCRACY AND DENY THE TERRIORIST HAVENS. I AGREE THAT IT COULD WORK, BUT THE STRATEGY WILL OUT LIVE HIS ADMINSTRATION.
110 posted on 12/15/2005 9:31:29 AM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: Kuehn12

You may claim it's an ivory tower debate, but I am disagreeing with your original premises: that the President "rushed" to war with Saddam.

You call it "rushing" to war, 12 years into Saddam's continued, and persistent, UN violations and murders. I call that great patience with a tyrannical dictator and murdered of thousands of Kurds.

Who has claimed that the war against terrorists, or any strategy to defeat them, would end when Bush leaves office? Certainly, he NEVER claimed any such thing. In fact, his claims have contradicted that.


111 posted on 12/15/2005 9:35:57 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Kuehn12
No, no, no...I'm not at all implicating Saddam as being in on the planning or execution of the plot. No one on my side has.

...But, did he cheer at the outcome of the buildings coming down, at the Pentagon up in flames, watching his enemy being attacked? You bet he celebrated.

Read my previous posts. Remember, Al Qaieda had declared war on the West. Whose side do you think Saddam would have supported? The Americans...Give me a break, and wake up. This is a post-9-11 world.
112 posted on 12/15/2005 10:52:11 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: Right-Wing Champion
I thought you might be interested in this observation: The top of the hour, ABC radio news just lead with...New Orleans cleanup - and not the history making event taking place in Iraq right now!...Gee, wonder why?
113 posted on 12/15/2005 11:03:59 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: Kuehn12
HOWEVER, HE SEVERILY BIASED THE PROCESS, AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHY...

What are you talking about...he is our elected president and CIC - we pay him to make these decisions. Geesh.

114 posted on 12/15/2005 11:11:08 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
All I see is a bunch of big busted babes which looks like a porn site.

Is there no serious feature / functionality other than busty teen-agers?

115 posted on 12/15/2005 10:37:31 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Names Ash Housewares
“Anybody who doesn’t appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell” – Iraqi Citizen, voter Betty Dawisha

And... I am supposed to figure out what you are saying? The links take me to a teen porno site.

Why cannot folks have a clear link to the issue?

116 posted on 12/15/2005 10:41:47 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

Links are working fine. I just check it.

Sure you dont have a virus redirecting your browser?

Anyone else having this problem out there?


117 posted on 12/15/2005 10:57:20 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: aligncare
No it isn't a post 9/11 world, the struggle against terrorism and islamofacism is an old struggle, a clash between the Christian and the Muslim world that goes back to 8th Century. What as soon as we were hit a realization came over us, if that is the case then we are deluded. I grew up with acts Islamic terror splashed across the TV screen, Beirut, Aklie Largo, PanAm 103 and many more. This is the American disease, unless it affects us directly we don't have stake in it. However, if has been a change it has certainly waned since 9/11.

The creation of the so called post 9/11 is a creation of both the Republicans and the Democrats as well design to deflect attention from inattention payed to Terrorism during the cold war and after.
118 posted on 12/16/2005 8:06:08 AM PST by Kuehn12 (Kuehn12)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

bump


119 posted on 12/16/2005 8:07:33 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Names Ash Housewares

RNC - Here you go, fodder for a nice campaign ad ... :)


120 posted on 12/16/2005 8:24:11 AM PST by Babu
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