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National Review ^ | December 13, 2005

Posted on 12/13/2005 10:13:15 AM PST by Daralundy

Every year, parties to the Kyoto Protocol meet. Every year the future of the protocol is very much in question. And every year the meeting ends with environmental crusaders falsely claiming that the world has finally united behind the goal of reducing greenhouse-gas emissions. This year’s conference in Montreal followed the tired old pattern.

The parties agreed to little or nothing — but, hearing the way the conference has been spun, you’d think the environmentalists’ every dream had been fulfilled. Greenpeace hailed the meeting as “historic,” and enviros hither and yon felt the special frisson of Bill Clinton’s saying, in a speech before the conference, that George W. Bush is “flat wrong” to think that reducing greenhouse-gas emissions would harm the U.S. economy. The conference’s supposed triumph was an agreement to proceed with talks on new emissions-reductions goals, to take effect after Kyoto’s current targets expire in 2012. That the U.S. has agreed to participate in these talks is being taken as a major American reversal.

No one bothers to point out that the U.S. is in no way committed to accepting whatever emissions targets are ultimately agreed upon. Given the reluctance of the vast majority of Americans — and their elected representatives — to emasculate the U.S. economy by enforcing a Green regime, we suspect Kyoto’s supporters aren’t going to get their way anytime soon. Moreover, the agreement to hold more talks is nothing new. It is, rather, simply a reaffirmation of an agreement in 1997 to hold discussions on post-2012 emissions targets no later than December of 2005. One man’s historic breakthrough thus turns out to be another man’s eight-year-old news.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: enivironment; kyoto

1 posted on 12/13/2005 10:13:15 AM PST by Daralundy
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To: Daralundy

I would love for someone to post how countries are doing in meeting the Koyoto goals. I read that the US has done better than most Koyoto signing countries.


2 posted on 12/13/2005 10:18:26 AM PST by NeilGus
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To: NeilGus

Very true. No country in Western Europe is even close to meeting their goals.


3 posted on 12/13/2005 10:21:03 AM PST by .cnI redruM (If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
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To: Daralundy

Clinton is an idiot, China and India, are exempt from emissions caps under Kyoto, the U.S. does more than any country on earth to clean up its own environment without Kyoto, and on top of that it is foolish to think we control the environment at all no matter what we do.

Can anyone tell me when we have ever stopped or controlled a hurricane, rain, snow, sleet, tornado, flood, drought, heatwave, cold front, hail, thinning or thickening of the glaciers, the rotation of the Earth, the heat released by the Sun, how fast the moons revolves around the Earth, etc.?


4 posted on 12/13/2005 10:23:37 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne
Can anyone tell me when we have ever stopped or controlled a hurricane, rain, snow, sleet, tornado, flood, drought, heatwave, cold front, hail, thinning or thickening of the glaciers, the rotation of the Earth, the heat released by the Sun, how fast the moons revolves around the Earth, etc.?

Well, it's not quite in the same league as climatological events, but Helen Thomas has stopped a few clocks.

Does that count?
5 posted on 12/13/2005 10:34:59 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
Well, it's not quite in the same league as climatological events, but Helen Thomas has stopped a few clocks.

She's also been known to turn quite a few stomaches. :=)

6 posted on 12/13/2005 10:38:31 AM PST by Bob
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7 posted on 12/13/2005 10:39:50 AM PST by petercooper (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Seal the borders.)
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To: DustyMoment

There were 23 planets in our solar system before Helen was born, 9 escaped and 5 just exploded. :P


8 posted on 12/13/2005 10:46:23 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne

I've melted ice cubes in my bourbon glass. Does that count?


9 posted on 12/13/2005 11:06:39 AM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Can anyone tell me when we have ever stopped or controlled a hurricane

I thought Rove/Cheney/Bush controlled where Katrina hit.

10 posted on 12/13/2005 11:07:24 AM PST by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: NeilGus
I would love for someone to post how countries are doing in meeting the Koyoto goals. I read that the US has done better than most Koyoto signing countries.

No, but we have done better than some countries. Canada has just been terrible. I think they are like 40% over.

11 posted on 12/13/2005 11:10:03 AM PST by Always Right
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To: sergeantdave

The equal mass as a solid or liquid so it doesn't count. lol


12 posted on 12/13/2005 11:23:18 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TheForceOfOne

ROFLMAO!!!!!


13 posted on 12/13/2005 5:47:12 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: TheForceOfOne

You silly goose! Were you not listening when the German minister informed us after Katrina that it is our refusal to adopt Kyoto that caused the hurricane? Pay attention already! Geez!

/sarc


14 posted on 12/13/2005 6:20:54 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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