Posted on 12/13/2005 9:20:22 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
Hollowed bullet easy to get & hard to survive
BY ALISON GENDAR and DAVE GOLDINER DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Hollow-point bullets like the one used in the slaying of Officer Daniel Enchautegui are much deadlier than ordinary bullets - and nearly as easy to get.
Cops favor using the hollow-point bullets because they are less likely to pass through a target and ricochet into a fellow cop or bystander.
But they want their public sale banned to keep them out of the hands of thugs like Enchautegui's alleged killers, Steven Armento and Lillo Brancato.
"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."
Armento allegedly shot Enchautegui with his father's .357-caliber handgun, loaded with the hollow-point bullets.
Anyone with a gun permit can buy the hollow-points in a gun shop. They also are readily available on the black market.
"Anybody can go out and buy them," said Michael Palladino, head of the Detectives' Endowment Association.
The main difference between hollow-point and regular, "full-metal jacket" bullets is that the hollow-points flatten on impact and expand inside a target.
The NYPD switched to the new ammo in 1999.
"They are less likely to penetrate the intended target and hit a bystander," said Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne.
An on-duty cop's bulletproof vest would likely provide the same protection from a hollow-point as a regular bullet.
Myth. Nobody working on military ammo today is concerned about anything but "incapacitation" - FMJ is selected for reliable feeding in automatic weapons, and compliance with the law of land warfare.
You might win the battle if you leave combatants alive, but you will lose the war.
Can you imagine the tedium of hollowing-out enough bullets to equip the NYPD's 50,000 cops? That was hard work.
Heh... can you believe that? People living in an apartment in NYC have no reasonable need to want bullets that won't travel through an intruder ~and~ the next three apartments before coming to rest.
That said, I carry EFMJs in both CCW guns, H&K .40 USPc and SA 1911.
TC>That's 'cause it helps with the accuracy, you see... ;-)
All mine work just fine with a 3.5lb trigger and are a lot more accurate.
Thanks. I'm curious of the damage they cause. I've heard stories but, not actually seen their aftermath. I remember when Dr's were screaming for them to be outlawed because of what they did to their fingers when they thought they were just taking out regular bullets.
WTF kind of stupid statement is this?
Not according to the sale I witnessed at a licensed gun shop here in Vegas... No question's asked.
"Which is why they are a favored choice for home defense use as well."
Agreed! My .357 is loaded with brass tipped hallow point Dots (I think that is the name). I spent the rdiculous amount because it was advertised to not overpenetrate. If I have to defend myself in my house or a convenience store, I do not want overpenetration (unless I can line the bad guys up.)
But they want their public sale banned to keep them out of the hands of thugs like Enchautegui's alleged killers, Steven Armento and Lillo Brancato.
"Cops want you untrained gun nuts to use bullets that will pass right through violent felons and kill innocent bystanders. Then we can pass more laws to take those away too. Friggin' gun nuts," stated retired Police Chief and aspiring Democratic city councilman Biff O'Flanahan. /sarc
Yeah !!! I'm glad to see another HK USP40 fan.
I second that! They load them hot, too, in Hornady's Custom ammo.
I think you have to have a gun permit to buy any ammo (hollowpoints or FMJ) in NYC.
No matter what the situation, the 'safest' bullet is the one that stops in the first thing it hits.
Would anyone want to wait around for an ignorant guy like this to protect you from violent felons?
If hollow points are necessary for the cops they're necessary for the rest of us.
Here is a web address you can go to and read about wound ballistics of black talons.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs2.htm
You have to scroll down a bit.
Was the officer not wearing his vest?
"You have to have a gun permit to buy them legally
Not according to the sale I witnessed at a licensed gun shop here in Vegas... No question's asked."
This is false. Here in Indiana I can buy any ammo in stock, no questions asked.
Moron.
It's like these people are from a completely different planet.
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