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Fr. Andrew Greeley: Evangelicals drifting toward Catholic ways
timesunion. ^ | Dec 12 05 | Fr. Andrew Greeley

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:37:57 PM PST by churchillbuff

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1 posted on 12/12/2005 10:37:57 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

What religion is the writer? He seems to be sending up both Protestants and Catholics together.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 10:41:59 PM PST by BlackVeil
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3 posted on 12/12/2005 10:42:36 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: churchillbuff

How about that for cogent analysis. Should I go see the movie or not?


4 posted on 12/12/2005 10:43:33 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: churchillbuff

Pray that Fr. Greeley drift towards Catholicism.


5 posted on 12/12/2005 10:43:42 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: churchillbuff

Andrew Greeley's e-mail address is agreel@aol.com


6 posted on 12/12/2005 10:44:40 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: BlackVeil

I noticed that too.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:03 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: churchillbuff

To me this was the gist of what he was trying to say:

**In his retelling of the Gospel in allegorical form, C.S. Lewis goes back to the miracle and morality plays of the Middle Ages, in a sense as if the Reformation never happened.**


8 posted on 12/12/2005 10:46:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: churchillbuff

"Thus a tedious and contemptuous article in The New Yorker equated the popularity of Lewis with his teaching of doctrines that appeal to evangelicals."

Guess the author has this article in mind

The Lion, the Witch and the Metaphor (Bizarre article on Narnia by the usual culprits): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1539312/posts


9 posted on 12/12/2005 10:56:21 PM PST by indcons (indcons on Rush Limbaugh's show (transcript): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1535861/posts)
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To: churchillbuff
"Jesus is not and never was a lion like Aslan in the film."

This man is both genius and prodigy to all questions, theologic and moral. One can only accept his near-divinity as our new savior and guide.

10 posted on 12/12/2005 10:56:35 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: churchillbuff

Perhaps if the "good" Fr. were to actually READ his Bible, inerrant, or not, he would notice that there is no basis in the idea that: "the rest of us will be vaporized on the day of the rapture". This is, of course, NOT the teaching of the evangelical church or the Bible, simply a fabrication, possible on his part?!

Furthermore, the evangelical church does NOT teach that belief in inerrancy of the Bible is a prerequisite for the Salvation of Christ. This is a further fabrication on the part of the author. Evangelicals DO, for the most part, believe in the inerrancy of scripture, at least, as originally imparted in the original languages.

That belief leads us to search scripture diligently for the truth of how God would have us behave. We find, in Scripture, that God wants us to accept the gift of His grace offered to us through the death of His Son on the cross. Christ died in our place taking upon Himself our guilt so that we might be redeemed into the Kingdom of God.

How this exactly works and why God loves us so much that He went to such lengths to redeem us is, in fact, a mystery. I will grant that such mysteries are a tradition we share with the Roman Catholic Church.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 10:57:41 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: churchillbuff
Secondly it seems to me that the evangelicals slip dangerously close to Catholic idolatry when they embrace a wondrous allegory as a summary of the biblical story.

Embrace it as a summary of the biblical story? He understands evangelicals as poorly as do secular liberals.

12 posted on 12/12/2005 10:59:18 PM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: churchillbuff

I think the good man is guilty of wishful thinking, he needs to go to confession


13 posted on 12/12/2005 11:02:16 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: polymuser
Embrace it as a summary of the biblical story?

No, we just like to see films once in a while that confirms our faith

14 posted on 12/12/2005 11:04:38 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: BlackVeil

"Father" Greeley is Catholic; he writes soft porn novels.


15 posted on 12/12/2005 11:11:12 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I trust your post was made with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 11:12:34 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: nickcarraway
Pray that Fr. Greeley drift towards Catholicism.

That's exactly what I was going to say!

I liked Greeley back in the late 70's when he was quite critical of Jimmy Carter. Then he became a multi-millionaire with his silly novels and became much too full of himself.

17 posted on 12/12/2005 11:23:12 PM PST by iowamark
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To: churchillbuff

...very unusual. He's a political lefty, but he presents a good case against the paganism of deification of an artificial beast as allegory.


18 posted on 12/12/2005 11:23:21 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: the_Watchman

It wouldn't hurt for him to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, either.


19 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:33 PM PST by karnage
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Go see it. Just don't buy a stuffed lion and start praying to it.


20 posted on 12/12/2005 11:40:45 PM PST by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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