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Mozilla Says Firefox 1.5 Bug Not Serious
TechWeb News ^ | December 12, 2005 | Greg Keizer

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:15:30 AM PST by Eagle9

Mozilla Corp. has warned users of its newest browser, Firefox 1.5, that a bug in how the software handles extremely long names can make it seem that the computer has crashed. The flaw, however, does not expose users to attack, contrary to earlier reports by researchers.

Malicious pages with very long titles--the proof of concept for the pseudo denial-of-service (DoS) attack contained 2.5 million characters--make the browser appear to hang, said Mozilla in an online security advisory, although the software is actually busy processing the name. Once encountered, the very slow start can't be corrected until the site name is removed from Firefox's history file.

Last week, researchers of the PacketStorm security group claimed that the bug could result in not just a DoS, but a more serious buffer overflow, which could be used in turn by attackers to compromise the system.

Mozilla, however, said that additional investigations showed that there is no danger of a buffer overflow. "We can find no basis for claims that variants of this denial-of-service attack can cause an exploitable crash," stated the Mozilla advisory. "There does not appear to be any risk to users or their computers beyond the temporary unresponsiveness at startup."

The advisory also includes instructions on clearing the history file of the too-long site name.

Mozilla has not set a release date for a fix.


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Long-title temporary startup unresponsiveness

Web pages with extremely long titles (the posted proof of concept used 2.5 million characters) can cause Mozilla Firefox and the Mozilla Suite to appear to "hang" on startup when reading the browsing history data. The browser will eventually continue normally although this can take up to several minutes on a slower computer. The unresponsive starts will continue until the item with the long title is removed from the history file or eventually expires.

We have investigated this issue and can find no basis for claims that variants of this denial-of-service attack can cause an exploitable crash, and no evidence for this claim has been offered. There does not appear to be any risk to users or their computers beyond the temporary unresponsiveness at startup.

Should the user encounter this problem the slow starts can be fixed by deleting the item from history.

Deleting the item from history

  1. Open History from the Go menu
  2. Select the item with the long title
  3. Press the delete button

Clearing all history data


1 posted on 12/12/2005 10:15:31 AM PST by Eagle9
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My policy is not to open websites with names longer than one million characters.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 10:23:58 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

Is it the name or title, OR IS IT the url address that is of this length?


3 posted on 12/12/2005 10:25:51 AM PST by George from New England
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To: D-fendr

Yeah, mine too.


4 posted on 12/12/2005 10:26:58 AM PST by Eagle9
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To: George from New England

Does it matter?

What was the last URL you went to with over 2 million characters?

How about the last time you've been on pages with titles over 2 million characters either?


5 posted on 12/12/2005 10:35:25 AM PST by PissAndVinegar (Back in my day, URL's had over 3 million characters, which we had to type in by hand, in binary...)
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To: George from New England
Is it the name or title, OR IS IT the url address that is of this length?

I'm not a technical expert but I think it would be the title of the address sent out by a bot, trojan horse from a hacker.

6 posted on 12/12/2005 10:36:59 AM PST by Eagle9
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To: Eagle9

It's certainly not like the series of series bugs in that other product from Redmond in a blue state!


7 posted on 12/12/2005 10:38:57 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Revolting cat!
It's certainly not like the series of series bugs in that other product from Redmond in a blue state!

Nor is it as hugh.

8 posted on 12/12/2005 10:42:06 AM PST by Eagle9
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To: Eagle9

Sounds like it has problems with hugh URLs.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:03 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Eagle9
I started having problems with Firefox last week on ALL my PC's. If I open another site using tabs the system comes to a near halt.

I've been trying out Opera since and it ain't bad, but I'd still like to use FireFox.

I will try this fix and see what happens.
Be Back later.
10 posted on 12/12/2005 11:29:54 AM PST by BallyBill (U.S. Armed Forces.. In It ..To Win It!!)
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To: BallyBill

Well that seemed to work great. Later, I'll try my laptop and see what happens before I clear it. On this one I just cleared it as soon as I opened it up.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 11:36:44 AM PST by BallyBill (U.S. Armed Forces.. In It ..To Win It!!)
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To: BallyBill
Well that seemed to work great.

If it works as well on your other computers using Firefox, you'll know that this was the problem. That would be good news and a simple solution to the problem.

12 posted on 12/12/2005 12:33:54 PM PST by Eagle9
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13 posted on 12/12/2005 3:07:31 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Eagle9
Hi there..
Thanks for the post..
I am NOT a techno person here..so forgive my "less-than-educated" question...
But...has anyone else noticed Firefox slowing WAY DOWN..or not loading recently?
And..IS THIS what this article is talking about?

Sorry if this is a STUPID question..
I try not to be stupid very often!
14 posted on 12/12/2005 3:10:57 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Eagle9
Any experts out there have an explanation for this one?

When I use Control-B to bring up the Bookmarks sidebar, it takes maybe 2-3 seconds to appear.

Yet, if I click on the "Bookmarks" Menu title at the top of the Firefox window, it freezes Firefox for about 20 seconds while it works to open the drop-down window.

What's the deal there? I do have a lot of Bookmarks saved over the years; I'm just thinking the two routines load the file differently.

15 posted on 12/12/2005 3:15:09 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: M0sby
It is not stupid..., it is just hard to answer given how little data we have. This article is talking about extremely long "internet addresses" and should not be a problem for you if you don't have some ridiculously long address of a website for a home page (not likely).

Is it only Firefox, or are you having troubles with all your programs? Have you defragged your drive lately? Run any "fixit" type of utilities (ie, Norton) to fix your links and all? Is your ram sufficient and do you ever get messages that you need to increase your pagefiles?

All those are things that can slow a Windoze box down.

16 posted on 12/12/2005 3:31:11 PM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: BallyBill; Big Giant Head

Firefox bug ping.

This is exactly why I let my husband be the guinea pig with new releases. LOL!


17 posted on 12/12/2005 3:41:44 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (Welcome to my little Rosemary Anne, born 10/24)
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To: Eagle9; Swordmaker
I have a similar experience in Fire Fox 1.0.6 but it still beats IE and I always have Safari to fall back on...
18 posted on 12/12/2005 4:03:34 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Salad from Chicken Bleep...)
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To: Eagle9

Im experiencing really random bugs in ff 1.5
The address bar dropdown won't work, disappears, or locks in the down position, the quicktime plug in won't install, there are random resets to default configurations(this is from 2 extensions fighting over some resource or something).

Overall, it's a great improvement, but some serious UI flaws still exist.


19 posted on 12/12/2005 4:44:19 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: BallyBill

I have both Firefox and Opera.I got Firefox 1.5 on the evening of it's release and it's really fast. It won't let me do some things, like http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html . It simply won't run. It's probably user error, or a setting in my firewall maybe. The site runs in Opera, however, but Opera won't let me log into my Hotmail account.

The 1.01 version of Firefox on my laptop still works great, but is a little bit slower.

I'm still messing around with both, trying to make them both work everywhere.


20 posted on 12/12/2005 4:52:04 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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