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To: ElkGroveDan; Hildy
You don't like me becasue I am a conservative and I support freedom and liberty.

Conservatism doesn't support unrestrained liberty. It recognizes the need for law and order.

You have no liberty interest to drive drunk. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy, especially when it is a term of your drivers license that you will submit to a breath screening test when asked. A driver's license is a privilege, not a right.

40 posted on 12/11/2005 3:05:49 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: jude24
You have no liberty interest to drive drunk.

Okay, we've all been through this before.

Define "drunk".

46 posted on 12/11/2005 3:09:38 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: jude24
You have no liberty interest to drive drunk.

And I never suggested that. What is drunk is up to interpretation. If your friends at MADD had their way Listerine mouthwash would land drivers in jail.

The right to travel freely in society unmolested by authorities for no reason is guaranteed by the Constitution. Checkpoints, like abortion and slavery and other legal abominations "upheld by courts" will some day be banished to history -- hopefully someday soon.

65 posted on 12/11/2005 3:23:53 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: jude24

Do you believe it to be an effective use of scarce resources to net 2 drivers out of 100?

Do you know that more drunks are caught by good police work simply by observing traffic and targeting only those that appear to be impaired?


181 posted on 12/12/2005 4:25:29 PM PST by Badray (Limited constitutional government means protection for all, but favor for none.)
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To: jude24
You have no liberty interest to drive drunk.

So, is .08 drunk? Or is it an arbitrary limit imposed by authorities in response to the shrillness of organizations like MADD?

223 posted on 12/13/2005 4:02:31 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: jude24

Would you please describe for me the parameters of restrained liberty in your ideal world?


244 posted on 12/14/2005 5:32:49 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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