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To: jaguaretype
Amendment IV - Search and seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

God, some of you FReedom haters really tick me off sometimes. Read it and weep loser. I don't see, except for airports, government property, or the FRICKEN WHITE HOUSE. Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't make it so. As for the rest of your foolishness, GRIP, get one. Blackbird.

232 posted on 12/13/2005 8:41:08 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST
Blow it out of whatever bud.

You are the typical anti-gov moron that sometimes haunts these threads.

"secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,"

What part of those words "houses, papers and effects" is unclear as to the PERSONAL POSSESSION or DOMAIN of said items? You don't have possession of the White House, airports or MY HOUSE and your "perceived rights" will not trample over my right to be safe and secure where I and others go about their business in public places.

You seem unable to grasp the concept that our Govt is duly tasked with securing our borders & maintaining the ORDER of society and SAFETY of it's citizens. Laws are enacted to effect that safety and order and if you don't like them vote someone else in or move to your local McVeigh type anarchist utopian commune.

Read it yourself and don't even pretend to lecture me on LASS, Constitutionality of Probable Cause etc...ever, as you are not equipped to do so with the vapid jack boot anti-american generalizations you spew...

I doubt I'll spend too many more keystrokes on your type.

FReedom haters ???? LOL!!!!

Really? LOL!!! I just love enslavement:)
233 posted on 12/13/2005 10:29:05 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: BlackbirdSST
Do you even remember what this thread is about?

Read your DL application which you signed and note that you agreed explicitly that driving a vehicle is a privilege and not a right granted by your state. Furthermore, that by receiving that DL you agreed by signature to subject yourself to the State laws governing that privilege as enacted by your government. That would be laws re: stop signs, speed limits, unimpaired driving etc....you know....the things that lead to order and safety of the citizenry at large (not just you Bird)....and additionally the right of the PD to set up LEGALLY affirmed sobriety etc.. checkpoints.

Someone like you though probably chafes at the concept of the govt granting privileges.......anarchy all the way...you have the right to do whatever you want for you are truly free!!!
234 posted on 12/13/2005 10:55:14 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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