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In Tookie's case, focus on victims
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 12-11-05 | Gurwitz

Posted on 12/11/2005 1:59:38 PM PST by doug from upland

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1 posted on 12/11/2005 1:59:39 PM PST by doug from upland
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In 1979 when he murdered Owens and the Yang family and in 1981 when he was convicted and sentenced to death, this violent criminal was known as Stanley Williams.

Today he is known amiably as Tookie, the author of children's books that advocate nonviolence and warn of the perils of gang life.

I really wish people would stop referring to this brutal murderer as "Tookie".

His name is Stanley Williams. And hopefully Williams will die tomorrow for his terrible crimes.

2 posted on 12/11/2005 2:04:48 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: doug from upland

After the guilty verdict was read, the murderer looked at the jury and said, "I'm going to get each and every one of you mother f------."



Ah, that just endeared me to him even more.


3 posted on 12/11/2005 2:10:29 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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Good. I wish the MSM focused less on the "plight" of death row inmates, and focused more on those whose lives these monsters cut short.


4 posted on 12/11/2005 2:14:35 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Jigsaw John

I just refer to him as a POS.

Too bad they can't inject this POS with Drano, then we could if see this POS gurgles too.


5 posted on 12/11/2005 2:14:52 PM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: doug from upland

Time check, please.


6 posted on 12/11/2005 2:15:06 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, you noted that the "hollywood" crowd is rushing to his defence. Did you notice that one of the "hollywood" crowd is NOT rushing to his defense? That is Bill Cosby who lost his son to thugs in Southern Ca.


7 posted on 12/11/2005 2:21:19 PM PST by stumpy
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This is the kind of thing that needs to be seen by all of the people who think he should have his sentence commuted or (gasp!) be set free. No one ever remembers the victims because they're dead--the media doesn't show anything about them or their lives, and the American (liberal) public doesn't have to face them.

I made a few converts when I explained this paradigm to people who called for the commutation of Ronnie Halfdahl's death sentence. Halfdahl was a violent criminal and crackhead who killed a cop because he didn't want to get a speeding ticket. During the interval of time between sentencing and execution, Halfdahl had grown grandfatherly and kindly in prison, discovered Jesus, and became close to his only daughter. The disgusting article written about him in the Charleston Post and Courier highlighted all the sad parts--how he missed his daughter's graduation, marriage, and the birth of his first grandchild, etc. Gag.

That was a good enough tear-jerker for some, until I raised the 'mean' fact that the cop had kids too, who probably missed him a hell of a lot on their birthdays and graduations. But alas, no one ever remembers how the criminal got there or the destruction he wrought while on his way.

8 posted on 12/11/2005 2:22:53 PM PST by Alien Gunfighter (Socialist liberals never imagine themselves as peasants under their 'perfect' socialist regime)
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9 posted on 12/11/2005 2:24:26 PM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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While Williams has apologized for his role in glorifying gang violence, he has never shown any remorse for the four murders nor even acknowledged his guilt.

So what if he had? Good grief, is this all the (California) legal system requires to show remorse? Which in turn, apparently, is a ticket out?

10 posted on 12/11/2005 2:27:08 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

Hang him.


11 posted on 12/11/2005 2:28:25 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: doug from upland
ncountylee's Tookie send off meal.

Leg of lamb with garlic/wine sauce

Over fried potatoes

Green beans with cheese sauce

Assorted veggie tray with dips

A nice Merlot (to toast the bleeding heart libs)

Matrimonial (date) squares ala mode for desert

Submitted to and approved by the boss.

12 posted on 12/11/2005 2:29:28 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: doug from upland

After the guilty verdict was read, the murderer looked at the jury and said, "I'm going to get each and every one of you mother f------."



---And Hollywood nut jobs are supporting this inhuman POS?


13 posted on 12/11/2005 2:29:43 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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Tookie was one jacked up jailhouse weightlifter. Arnold Schwarzenegger used to visit prisons back in the 70s and talk about bodybuilding as a rehabilitation tool. I wonder if that experience and Tookies "reformed" physique will influence his attitude towards clemency. I have a feeling Tookie is going to get his stay.

14 posted on 12/11/2005 2:48:31 PM PST by Callahan
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To: ncountylee

i don't believe they are allowed alcohol


15 posted on 12/11/2005 2:49:53 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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It's my meal not his, I will party.


16 posted on 12/11/2005 2:51:10 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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ah... i understand.

I am a huge supporter of Arnold S. but if grants clemency I'm through.


17 posted on 12/11/2005 2:52:43 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: ncountylee

How funny. I was going to put up a thread about his last meal, hoping people would put up gourmet recipes.


18 posted on 12/11/2005 2:58:13 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: yankeedame

You are missing the point of him not admitting what he did. He cannot have redemption until he has admitted what he did. That and apologizing are the first steps. What he really wants is clemency now, and out of jail later. That is why he won't admit it. I wonder if he will just before the shot.


19 posted on 12/11/2005 3:01:03 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: Callahan

He was already built up when he met Arnold about six months before he ended up on death row.


20 posted on 12/11/2005 3:01:48 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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