What part of GOD SENDS PEOPLE TO HELL FOR UN FORGIVEN MURDER escapes you? God's word says people like TOOKIE will be sent to an eternal living Death in HELL.
The bible says Judge Not Lest you be Judged. But the bible also says all will face judgment. What was meant was that I am not to exercise judgment. The exercise of judgment is to proclaim and implement punishment for crime or wrong doings.
When the State executes a person it is exercising judgment. The bible does not say Caesar can not exercise judgment. It says you and I can't. That means you can't decide I deserve death for my sins and then kill me and go to heaven with out receiving forgiveness.
But Jesus was clear that governments have the right to exercise judgment and put criminals to death. Jesus said render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render unto God the things that are God's. Caesar had held the right and power to execute citizens of Rome for the commission of crimes defined by Caesar and the Roman Senate long before Christ was born.
If Jesus had said render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars except for the death penalty, I might give your argument some weight.
Caesar was the title given to the Roman government leader with the power of life and death over citizens. The Caesar for Tookie was Arnie the Terminator. Arnie using the same power exercised by the Caesars of Christs day, said put him to death and it was done.
This piece of trash did not REPENT. IN fact he never admitted guilt. He claimed innocence in the presence of absolute proof of his guilt. He left his finger prints on the cash drawer of the store he robbed and then killed the clerk. He was found with the gun that killed the clerk. The store camera showed him committing the act of murder. He never said even once that he was sorry for killing four people. Never once professed belief in GOD.
But why should you believe what Christ said.. After all you are far more compassionate than ever was Jesus! Perhaps you should tell God to correct Jesus for telling us to submit to Caesars power of life and death over our lives.
But then what could Christ know about morality and justice compared to a great moral person like you?
But why should you believe what Christ said.. After all you are far more compassionate than ever was Jesus! Perhaps you should tell God to correct Jesus for telling us to submit to Caesars power of life and death over our lives.
But then what could Christ know about morality and justice compared to a great moral person like you?
That was uncalled for period. You have attacked my faith. You have attacked me. You have put words in my mouth. Look over my posts. I never ever said that he should not die. I only said that there could be good in people who make very very bad choices. I have no argument with this man dying for his crimes. I do have a problem with assuming we know this man's complete heart. You have judged him as if you know him. It is because I have a relationship with Christ that I refuse to say that this man is trash. There are no levels of sin to God. Sin is sin. Mine seperates me from God just as much as this man's. It is Ceaser/government that levels earthly penalties for sin. Some you get by with, some you might get a small consequence with and others like Williams get the ultimate that Ceaser has to give. I have never disagreed with the government's place to apply the death penalty, again read my posts. Why do I pay such a huge amount in taxes each year, follow the law, respect the speed limit? Could it be because I respect the place of government in my life as set up by Christ himself. I respect it far more because God said to than because our government has earned my respect. As far as your pathetic statement that I think I am more compassionate than Christ, it is only because of His example of compassion in my own life that would even allow me to understand that Williams was His creation too. God loves him just as much as he loves me.(John 3:16) The human part of me says he is worthless because of what he has done and how can God love him too? Thank God that he does because that means that I can not escape the love of God either. How can any creation of God's be worthless when he was created by Almighty God? Can GOd create something totally worthless and beyond hope? To label anyone beyond hope is to put God's power in a box and limit Him. I am not a great moral person. I am forgiven that is all. I am humbled every day by that thought. Just as a point of clarification the only thing that will send you to hell is a lack of faith in Jesus Christ as your personal savior and Lord of your Life. Did Williams ever repent in his heart? Just because you and I did not get the memo doesn't mean he didn't ask God to be forgiven. We will not know this side of heaven. Remember the thief on the cross? In the midst of his execution he asked Jesus to forgive him and had faith that Jesus was the savior of the world. What was His response? "Today you will be with me in paradise". Praise God that one act of faith is all that God requires. The thief didn't have time to prove his change of heart to the world or even to Jesus for that matter through good acts or a changed life or even a public confession or thousands of hours of community service. God requires none of that. I pray that Mr. Williams had that come to Jesus moment before 12:35 am. If he did the angels rejoiced even over "This piece of trash".