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Shazam! What Took So Long?
Citizen Soldier ^ | December 2005 | Stella L. Jatras

Posted on 12/11/2005 2:57:01 AM PST by Doctor13

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To: Wraith

"How much actually helps the poor Muslim makes me wonder."

In Kosovo, the Albanians are smarter than the Americans in that regard. The average Albanian doesn't care for the Saudi Charities or their form of worship. However, the Saudi's and Iranians are very very clever. First of all, the Saudi Prince gives 40 million to two of our major Educational institutions...(Harvard and GWU), stupidly and ignorant of their means of influence I assume they took the money......with no knowledge of what will follow....very stupid, stupid Americans have allowed this to happen. The left and peaceniks are none the wiser until it's too late...

The poorer Albanian families in Kosovo takes the money.....300-1,000 per month for a salary, but they must practice Saudi style Islamic tradition. (praying five times per day, wearing the veil, reading the Koran, etc....and bring recruits.....)...The Charities require that a mosque be built first before any renovation to schools, hospitals etc...will begin, they have become partners with Albanian businesses......and the list goes on.......the charities are only to get into the system.....and manipulate until the Albanians are no longer in favor of the Americans and the IC....based on the Independence issue...that was bought by the Albanian Mafia through the Democratic party and lobbying groups...how's that for starters......Al Quada is also trying to align themselves with the Albanian Mafia....


41 posted on 12/27/2005 4:29:09 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; mark502inf; Doctor13; montyspython; ma bell; getoffmylawn; wonders
"manipulate until the Albanians are no longer in favor of the Americans and the IC"

I do believe the new reluctance to let the Kosovo Albanians realize Kosovo as independent from Serbia will cause the population to look upon the Americans in a negative favour and not the influx of Saudi mosques/money etc. The Albanians love to make money especially easy money and if it comes from Serbia or Saudi Arabia they don't care. To think that the Albanians are easily manipulated is a big mistake and you will find them very wise to the game. Keeping this in mind your following statement;

Al Quada is also trying to align themselves with the Albanian Mafia....

...makes sense because the Albanian Mafia are heavily involved in the smuggling of Afghani heroin through Kosovo i.e. the Balkan road. Their is cooperation between both Serb and Albanian criminal groups in this effort. Money is the universal language here for all involved including the KLA. To think religion will change all this is somewhat of a naive point of view......

42 posted on 12/27/2005 5:53:16 PM PST by Wraith (Your village called the idiot is missing.)
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To: Wraith; tgambill
I had a feeling the reading was going to get very interesting if you two started comparing notes. It has.

Wraith, while I agree with description of Serbian and Albanian criminal elements working together in the holy name of more money, I also see plenty of opportunity for AQ to poke its beak around and become somewhat of an influence in the affairs of Kosovo. I see a big mess only getting messier.

43 posted on 12/27/2005 7:05:15 PM PST by getoffmylawn (The 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox...now Konerko AND Thome? Are you kidding me???)
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To: tgambill
soon i will be ass kicking hajee!

"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines".
Major General Chesty Puller, USMC - while on a Battalion inspection.

"Chest nuts roasting on hajee's car fire ! My 5.56 nipping at his nose. Yule tide carols coming over the net! ..."

44 posted on 12/27/2005 7:57:38 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: montyspython
Oh oh, you said th "R" word, Hoplite gonna be mad!

which R word, right or rong? or, roprite?..;)

45 posted on 12/27/2005 7:58:52 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Wraith; tgambill

don't forget the money each Albanian within Kosovo recieves from UNMIK, I believe 8,000 Euros each year. Hey, that adds up..ya think?


46 posted on 12/27/2005 8:03:08 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Wraith

religion won't change a thing with the Albanians....money strengthens the religion if they want more money......this is the game.....:)


47 posted on 12/28/2005 12:16:49 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: ma bell

Chesty took a company of Marines to downtown Jacksonville in his day.......they cleaned house after a few Marines were jumped in a bar.....he almost got into trouble on that one....:))))


48 posted on 12/28/2005 12:19:16 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: ma bell

The money the Albanians receive from UNMIK....?? The KPS makes requests for phone cards....thousands of them. Guess what? The officers take them to downtown, and will sell them to the street vendors for half price...The phone cards are a great way to launder money. The street vendors sells them for full price...the KPS officer receives much $$$$$ for issued cards....

Secondly, house builders receives hundreds of thousands of dollars for building a house...they build a frame of concrete....and then stop. Then they keep the rest of the money and...and,........sell the remaining amount of building supplies...only to leave the frame standing indefinitely.....these are only two of the scams UNMIK and the Albanians pull off.....


49 posted on 12/28/2005 12:25:02 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Doctor13

And the toon just keeps on giving.


50 posted on 12/28/2005 12:28:08 AM PST by mathluv
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To: tgambill; ma bell; montyspython; mark502inf; Doctor13
religion won't change a thing with the Albanians....money strengthens the religion if they want more money......this is the game.....:)

Actually I know that we are generally on the same wavelength but having dealt with the Albanians in Kosovo first had it should be "Albanians....money strengthens the con of adopting the Islamic religion, if they want more money..... this is the game. The Albanians in particular the KLA are masters of perception and will always be. You may want to review my posts on Racak. That was the KLA's ultimate con...... Welcome to FR......

51 posted on 12/28/2005 8:32:11 AM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: getoffmylawn
Your right on about AQ messing around in Kosovo. They have been there long before 911. Afghani fighters were actively providing weapons system training to the KLA along with religious mind bending. Of course the KLA played along. Funny while I was in Kosovo you didn't hear the mosques calling the unfaithful to prayer very much. The locals were to busy making money......
52 posted on 12/28/2005 8:37:34 AM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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You have my curiousity......when were you in Kosovo...I was Security Chief for the OSCE in Gnjilane from 1999 to 2004. Have you read the articles that "we" started in August, basically blowing the whistle on the UN and Mafia link. Plus we talk specifically about RHIS and Al Haramain that signed contracts with the UN to operate. Both are bottom line hard core AQ.......operatives.


53 posted on 12/28/2005 8:46:32 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Wraith

Yep....you are right..."the con" to the Islamic Imams, "the con" to the UN and "the con" to the U.S......well said!

One person yesterday, that I was talking to from Poland, said the U.S. should get the Russian Mafia to go after the Albanian Mafia.....???? He had no idea....of course, I informed him that all five Mafia's are working together.....better than any organization and doing circles around the IC. Other "agencies" are working with the Albanian Mafia and one particular political party has taken very large amounts of campaign donations.....

My question is......:) what happens if the "purchase of Kosovo's independence" does not pan out? What then.......? Shall we guess that some "folks" won't be too happy.


54 posted on 12/28/2005 8:54:46 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: ma bell; Hoplite; montyspython; Wraith

From my sources, for starters I'll just start writing from the beginning. Wraith can fill in or correct if I am off to some degree. OK? It's hard to say what is the most accurate as deception is the name of the game.

On or around January 1999, the media center in Pristina (Serb controlled at that time)..reported that the Serbian police with support fromt the Yugoslav Army, attempted to arrest a terrorist group that killed a police officer. It was reported to be in the area of "Racak" and about 15 miles or so from Pristina. The Officer was Svetislav Przic. The Serbs also reported that this group killed three policemen in September and October, two policeman from Gnjilane in August and October, and two "Albanian" civilians on December 1998 and January 1999. I could get the details of these attacks if I were to research more.

Now, the final report stated that while the forces approached the village, the members attacked the police officers from covered positions with auto wpns. Police reported that they used firearms and killed several dozen terrorist. Most they claim were wearing KLA uniforms. Interestingly enough, the KVM had given the green light to conduct the operation and actually arrived at the scene afterwards..........

From reports the first encounter did not result in control of the situation. It is reported that the OSCE (KVM) could not conduct investigations due to being fired upon...by KLA members. Also reported from sources that the Serbian forces withdrew due to the continuing threat. Even as late at January 16, on site investigations were prevented.......The evidence was not protected and the Serb forces withdrew. The reason for the withdrawal is not known.......for sure. After Ambassador Walker arrived the OSCE and Serbian reports do not report the same thing.

Walker and group reportedly found 45 bodies....37 men, one woman and one child. Now, the KLA reported that it had counted 51 bodies...to include 9 KLA members. I might add that without any investigation Walker declared a massacre. Also, Ms. Marinkovic wanted to view the site in on Jan 16, 1999, but, but............was told that she should proceed to the site without police protection. Since she is not the star of "Tomb Raider", I understand she refused....:) The KVM had insisted that she proceed alone....:)) can you imagine?

I have more details but this is the initial reports......more to follow....

Tom


55 posted on 12/28/2005 9:20:32 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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That is the big question. With the strain of to many commitments for the US troops those in Kosovo will leave for duties elsewhere let say Iran, Syria and what of Kosovo? The US has established a relationship with the new Serbian Government and supports the plan to leave Kosovo as a Province of Serbia. In short the Serbian authorities will return to kosovo with assistance withe the UN/NATO much to the disappointment of the KLA or what ever they are calling themselves these days. Once this has happened the Thaci and his KLA will return to shooting Serbian Policeman in the back like what happened in Racak before the so called massacre.

The KLA which comprise of criminals and mentally ill psychopaths will once again find themselves in the hills where they started off but this time the world will see the KLA for what they really are not to mention the most important detail, they will be on their own or will they? Getting back to AQ in Kosovo it is anticipated that the KLA will get religious once again because of the need for support from the Islamic fighters in Bosnia and in the middle east. Sounds like a whole new mess in Kosovo or will the Serbs do what they have been doing for hundreds of years, be the front line against the invading Muslim insurgents. You should do some research on the Serbian Winged Hussars if you like a bit of history.

56 posted on 12/28/2005 9:37:55 AM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: tgambill
The nine KLA bodies were remove and buried in the area of a village called Malepolce which not far from Racak. If wild Willy Walker was to spin to the world a massacre, having dead KLA fighters laying around the civilians would make selling the massacre a little difficult.
57 posted on 12/28/2005 10:34:48 AM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: Wraith

Bingo!...........for lack of a better word.


58 posted on 12/28/2005 1:04:49 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Wraith

So, will the FBI focus on the Albanian Mafia more in the USA if internationals are targeted? I talked to two of them three weeks ago. I told them that they could target some small fishes...but if they went after big wheels in the Mafia a certain government agency would slow or maybe stop their progress.

Anyway, if the vote goes to no independence, the extremist will start their crap. Secondly, this will justify sending in Serbian Police and/or special operations groups...(which are already in place by the way), under the banner of anti-terrorism. Boy are we in a pickle. Chasing OBL and company in the ME, but supporting a group that is also working with the same Islamic groups against the Serbs. Or, will we change to favor the Serbs......If so, down comes the Poster of Clinton and the changing of Bill Clinton Blvd. Osama Bin Laden Blvd....:))))

If the Serbs pick up the pace say goodbye to TMK and KPC.....Also, internal crimes in the "multi-ethnic" police service KPS, will start being reduced. more to follow.......such a web we have made....


59 posted on 12/28/2005 1:18:25 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

tom, the Serb MUP control the Leposavic region/northern Kosovo. UNMIK moved out to let them run it.


60 posted on 12/28/2005 1:59:57 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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