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To: bybybill

So, if it isn`t Rudy and it can`t be McCain, who is going to get it?

If a person can accept that the POTUS can`t take our guns or stop abortions by himself, and Congress isn`t going to do either, who on our side can win? More importantly, who can lead and who will do whats right no matter what the polls say? If, no, when the next 9/11 hits, who do you want to decide our response? Who do you want to intrust the safety of our troops?
Tough questions but we better be ready to find some answers pretty quick.
We can kill off our guys cause they aren`t pure enough and Hillary can run things or, we can unite behind somebody that can win.
Who is that? Only one that can beat her is Rudy. Hate his position on abortion and guns but, another 9/11 happens, I want a guy like him in charge.


21 posted on 12/10/2005 9:33:18 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: bybybill
I don't think only Rudy can beat Hilly - in fact, I don't think Hilly will even get the dem nomination.

You do raise the important issue, though, and address a vulnerability and credibility problem with myopic, one issue conservatives on the road to 2008.

That is, part of our side's argument in the period after 911 is to ask the other side to put aside it's social agenda and other issues and recognize that the most important issue is national security.

Now come 2008, some of those same people are going to raise social issues in disqualifying McCain or Rudy. The truth hurts, and the truth is that taking that posture would leave the GOP at a severe credibility loss and flatfooted going into 2008.

If the main issue for the dems, as we insisted, was national security, so should the main issue for the GOP be national security. Anything else makes us phonies.

Now, we aren't phonies.
33 posted on 12/10/2005 9:50:44 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: bybybill

BTTT


68 posted on 12/10/2005 10:44:45 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: bybybill; Dr. Eckleburg; SkyPilot; goldstategop; Cincinatus' Wife; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; ...
You are truly deluded in thinking Hitlery is the be all, end all of presidential politics.

It is time to mount the offensive and not let the left pick and choose what or who we defend ourselves against. You are all too willing to fight from a position of weakness and self-defeat, to defend and not attack.

The Left will not define me or limit the parameters of my thinking. This is exactly what they want and I am not playing their game.

I want to wage a war, not a retreat... which is exactly the thinking behind saying Giuliani is the only one that can beat Hitlery... in your mind you have already conceded defeat...

We have already had a declaration of war from the Left...

“It's a war Larry, a war...” (James snake-head Carville on CNN's Larry King Live)

Nuclear Option Ping

Slapping the donkey...

If you want to be added or removed from this list, please notify me...

Originally, the Nuclear Option Ping List started out as a practical joke. With all the vitriolic response I received from certain un-named individuals, I figured it would be a great idea to do it for real...

I have observed here on Free Republic, a never ending flaming of religious folks and conservatives by people who promote things such as drug abuse, homosexuality, the ritual murder of abortion and other garbage.

Not being an orthodox or ecumenical atheist, it has really stretched my patience. I do not think policemen are jack-booted thugs, nor do I look at people who want to protect their families from filthy scum as brownshirts.

The purpose of this is to alert people to the cultural Marxism run amok... Drugs, sex perverts, pornography (in film and in music), marijuana, liquor, bashing the religious people, destroying social institutions (like marriage and the Boy Scouts), etc., etc.,... ad nausea...

The druggies like the sex perverts can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones... this is the only way they get new Demo-rat voters... CHEMICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE!

It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.

The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of a monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.

Historically, this is proven over and over again with the succsessive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. It is being played out here and all over the world today...

Observing this as an atheist, I prefer the paradigm of a Judaic culture to the chaotic death cult of New Age neo-pagan absurdity.

102 posted on 12/11/2005 5:11:33 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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