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A Little Sleuthing Unmasks Writer of Wikipedia Prank
New York Times ^ | December 11, 2005 | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

Posted on 12/10/2005 7:42:59 PM PST by nickcarraway

It started as a joke and ended up as a shot heard round the Internet, with the joker losing his job and Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, suffering a blow to its credibility.

A man in Nashville has admitted that, in trying to shock a colleague with a joke, he put false information into a Wikipedia entry about John Seigenthaler Sr., a former editor of The Tennessean in Nashville.

Brian Chase, 38, who until Friday was an operations manager at a small delivery company, told Mr. Seigenthaler on Friday that he had written the material suggesting that Mr. Seigenthaler had been involved in the assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy. Wikipedia, a nonprofit venture that is the world's biggest encyclopedia, is written and edited by thousands of volunteers.

Mr. Seigenthaler discovered the false entry only recently and wrote about it in an op-ed article in USA Today, saying he was especially annoyed that he could not track down the perpetrator because of Internet privacy laws. His plight touched off a debate about the reliability of information on Wikipedia - and by extension the entire Internet - and the difficulty in holding Web sites and their users accountable, even when someone is defamed.

In a confessional letter to Mr. Seigenthaler, Mr. Chase said he thought Wikipedia was a "gag" Web site and that he had written the assassination tale to shock a co-worker, who knew of the Seigenthaler family and its illustrious history in Nashville.

"It had the intended effect," Mr. Chase said of his prank in an interview. But Mr. Chase said that once he became aware last week through news accounts of the damage he had done to Mr. Seigenthaler, he was remorseful and also a little scared of what might happen to him.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: credibility; encyclopedia; fired; internet; media; prank; seigenthaler; slander; wikipedia
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1 posted on 12/10/2005 7:42:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Was this an adult?


2 posted on 12/10/2005 7:53:44 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: nickcarraway
Occasionally, I like to look at the "Recent Changes" link at Wikipedia. It's a good way to remind myself that Wikipedia is entertainment at best, not a reliable source of information. I once asked a librarian (a real librarian with a masters degree) a question and she turned to Wikipedia first for an answer. That act was more educational than anything else I learned that day.
3 posted on 12/10/2005 7:54:10 PM PST by Honcho Bongs
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To: nickcarraway
His plight touched off a debate about the reliability of information on Wikipedia - and by extension the entire Internet

The NYTimes wishes.

4 posted on 12/10/2005 7:57:11 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Abcdefg
It started as a joke and ended up as a shot heard round the Internet, with the joker losing his job and Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, suffering a blow to its credibility...Wikipedia, a nonprofit venture that is the world's biggest encyclopedia, is written and edited by thousands of volunteers.

I take everything I see on Wiki with a grain of SALT. The problem with these "thousands of volunteers" is there is no accountability. BLOGGERS can be traced--they generally take responsibility for what they post. But at Wiki sites, who the hell knows?? Nobody.

I hardly ever reference Wiki unless I've verified it somewhere else I consider reliable.

5 posted on 12/10/2005 7:57:39 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: nickcarraway

The question is, how many jokers have not yet been uncovered?


6 posted on 12/10/2005 7:57:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Moonman62

The NY Slimes is another unreliable "only part of the story" source. And 99% of the time, the Slimes tells the leftist version.


7 posted on 12/10/2005 7:58:28 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: nickcarraway

I have always thought of a prank as something like short-sheeting a bed. Slandering (or is that libelling) someone seems nastier.


8 posted on 12/10/2005 7:59:06 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: All

I think Wikipedia is a silly idea prone to BS and lacking any credibility at all... even BEFORE this incident!


9 posted on 12/10/2005 8:00:51 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Daralundy

Short-sheeting? You monster!


10 posted on 12/10/2005 8:01:19 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I use a salt lick when it comes to Wikipedia..


11 posted on 12/10/2005 8:20:52 PM PST by Darksheare (Bonafide Henchman.)
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To: nickcarraway
The rumor here where I live has always been that Seigenthaler was the man on the street in Dealy Plaza with the open umbrella.
12 posted on 12/10/2005 8:21:46 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: nickcarraway

who killed the Kennedys? "...after all it was you and me!"


13 posted on 12/10/2005 8:23:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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The idea of accountability is an interesting one, isn't it. Unlike the wikepedia contributors, MSM reporters are accountable, aren't they? as are the editors of the politically correcvted dictionaries we have seen published recently. and the re-writers of the politically corrected bible editions, no?

There is an acclaimed translator out there, who translated everything from German language poetry Tao Te Ching, to The Book of Job and Bhagavad Gita, which should be enough of a red flag. I mean what translator can translate from multiple languages? Anyway, after reading some enthusiastic reviews I bought one of those translations, I think it was Tao Te Ching, only to discover that this bastard updated the original text with modern references and his own leftist points of view. Accountable?

14 posted on 12/10/2005 9:18:17 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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I agree, wiki is unreliable, but it is what it is. Most of what you read there is genuinely accurate...but you simply can't accept it as true. It's as true as the last author who wrote it.

That said, it is useful for what it is. As long as you know that it's subject to be inaccurate, it can be good for learning about stuff. shrug.


15 posted on 12/10/2005 9:29:36 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Honcho Bongs

You make a good point, Wikipedia is not a real encyclopedia, it is entertainment .

It is not a reliable source of info, and certainly not a
professional source .

Its' standards of accuracy, balance and relevence are
very low to nonexistent .

It is popular tripe at best, full of innuendo created by those who are not compelled to list their sources or origins . .

Only a fool or a Liberal would trust Wikipedia !


16 posted on 12/10/2005 9:51:28 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: Revolting cat!
"... I mean what translator can translate from multiple languages?..."
Well, some years ago I used to know a man who could speak, read and write 8 languages, and 5 or 6 of them well enough to do a serious translator's work. Such linguistically gifted people do exist, but are scarce. Supposedly they are [or were] more plentiful in Europe. Moltke the Elder knew 7 languages, Pope John Paul II knew 10. Why, my former co-worker from Switzerland knew 6.
17 posted on 12/10/2005 11:04:14 PM PST by GSlob
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To: nickcarraway

Try looking up Free Republic on Wikipedia.


18 posted on 12/11/2005 5:25:06 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Honcho Bongs

Liberal news outlets, a.k.a. "Main Stream Media" lie routinely everyday and yet that is accepted as no big deal.


19 posted on 12/11/2005 5:48:57 AM PST by Contra
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To: nickcarraway
His plight touched off a debate about the reliability of information on Wikipedia - and by extension the entire Internet

Debate? What debate? Everybody knows that the information on the Internet has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Wikipedia or blog or CNN.com - if you can't verify it from another source, it isn't true. The Internet is a wonderful exchange of information, but most of what's out here is opinion disguised as fact.

If anything, we should be grateful to the Internet for teaching us skepticism. We should then apply it to all other sources of information, not just the Net.

20 posted on 12/11/2005 9:47:45 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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