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Arizona bishops release dramatic letter on immigration
CNA ^ | 12.09.05

Posted on 12/10/2005 1:30:46 PM PST by Coleus

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To: cripplecreek

Follow the money.


21 posted on 12/10/2005 1:54:42 PM PST by irons_player
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy.

As you should have been.

Catholics poo poohed it saying the Vatican was not involved in influencing American catholics.

The above foolish, prudential statement comes from the Bishops in Arizona not the Vatican and I wonder how you felt about the instruction from then Cardinal Ratzinger to Catholics about voting for politicians who promote abortion.

The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

That is your asinine, prudential opinion.

Vatican Warns Catholics Against Marrying Muslims

It must feel queasy about Europe and is doubling it's efforts to take over America.

Another asinine, prudential opinion.

The Vatican never agreed to Freedom of religion.

The Vatican believes that man possesses free will.

22 posted on 12/10/2005 1:59:15 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: moehoward

Attendance is down, many have complained, but the Church seems to not care at all. >>>

they'll change, I know up north, the Hispanic Masses don't come close in the collection basket as do the others.

and I like to point out to liberal catholics is that how are we helping the immigration of those catholics in India, Africa and elsewhere? Seems they don't count, just the illegals coming from Mexico do. That's not too fair.


24 posted on 12/10/2005 2:01:46 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy. >>

the catholic church was instrumental to America's development and growth. It's responsible for the Renaissance in Europe and an integral part of our Western Civilization.
25 posted on 12/10/2005 2:04:32 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

It prospered in Spanish held areas but coveted the USA.

It is now going for it.


26 posted on 12/10/2005 2:06:33 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: ridesthemiles

If you keep them in poverty and desperate for your help, it's far easier to control them.


27 posted on 12/10/2005 2:08:06 PM PST by jess35
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To: bert
The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

Oh jeez, something else to worry about huh? The topic of immigration sometimes precipitates the most interesting comments.

28 posted on 12/10/2005 2:12:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: bert
It prospered in Spanish held areas but coveted the USA. It is now going for it.

Here is the party that is the best fit for you.

29 posted on 12/10/2005 2:18:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

...Oh jeez, something else to worry about huh? ......

Both Robert Heinlein the noted futurist and Will Durant the greatest modern historian warned of the coming Catholic migration decades ago.


30 posted on 12/10/2005 2:19:01 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: Mount Athos

A real question arises: Are not the migrants being exploited by the rich? Do they think that Mexico will ever have a just government when the ruling class of that country can export their needy to North America?


31 posted on 12/10/2005 2:20:22 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: bert

I guess it won't be long until Roe v Wade is reversed huh?


32 posted on 12/10/2005 2:20:44 PM PST by Torie
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To: jackbenimble

Excellent point. I generally don't have a problem with the Catholic faith (I am the oddball who consider them fellow Christians) HOWEVER this stuff goes all over me. Even when I was a member I hated their socialistic leanings.

susie


33 posted on 12/10/2005 2:27:03 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: willstayfree

Churches are more than welcome to try to tackle the problem in the home countries that are disgorging zillions of illegal immigrants into the US. It's far easier to chastize the Rich Americans into taking them all in.

susie


34 posted on 12/10/2005 2:29:20 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: conservativehistorian
wonder if I should continue to keep cybercompany with such people.

Yes, please do. Pray for them, lead by example, and ignore stupid comments.

Oh, wait, I don't do that last one either! ;)

susie

35 posted on 12/10/2005 2:31:23 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: bert

We are descendants of Europe, it was by the catholic church who had influence in Europe, who educated children, whose monasteries transcribed the bible, wrote the entire logarithmic tables, was responsible for so many inventions. there is so much the church did for the world and for the continuation of western civilization that the average person and non-catholic just does not know.


36 posted on 12/10/2005 2:43:03 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Those Bishops are outlaws.


37 posted on 12/10/2005 2:46:43 PM PST by RoadTest (As teens we know everything; by 90, if we're wise, we'll know nothing.)
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To: moehoward

"The Catholic church has been running an Underground Railroad for Illegals for decades. "

You mean like "The Ratline" for Nazis to Argentina?


38 posted on 12/10/2005 2:51:46 PM PST by RoadTest (As teens we know everything; by 90, if we're wise, we'll know nothing.)
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To: conservativehistorian

I hope you will. In countries where the Catholic religion dominates church leaders are part of the power structure. They feed off the ignorance and superstition of peasant classes in third world nations. Mexico is a good example.
American Catholic rank and file are primarily good moral people. The bishops, cardinals, etc are not. America's large middle class is too enlightened to accept Catholic doctrine without question. They also will not tolerate the immorality of the above.


39 posted on 12/10/2005 3:02:59 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: jess35

You are right on!


40 posted on 12/10/2005 3:04:49 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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