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Congress poised to pass anti-meth law restricting sale of cold medicines (behind store counters)
ap on San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 12/9/05 | Sam Hananel - ap

Posted on 12/09/2005 8:29:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – Cold remedies that can be used by drug dealers to make methamphetamine would be forced behind store counters under legislation Congress is poised to pass by year's end. Lawmakers hope that federal restrictions – included in the agreement reached Thursday to reauthorize the USA Patriot Act – will stem a meth trade that has hit rural America particularly hard.

A number of states have already moved to curb the sale of cold pills containing pseudoephedrine, the ingredient used to cook meth in makeshift labs. The federal law would prevent meth makers from moving to states with weaker laws.

Stores would be required to keep medicines like Sudafed and Nyquil behind the counter and consumers would be limited to 3.6 grams, or about 120 pills, per day and 9 grams, or about 300 pills, a month. Purchasers would also need to show a photo ID and sign a logbook.

Those limits target meth dealers who buy large quantities of the drugs to extract the pseudoephedrine.

The measure is a compromise reached after months of haggling over the 30-day limit. Sens. Jim Talent, R-Mo., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who pushed the legislation in the Senate, insisted the limit was needed to curb the meth epidemic.

"The heart of this legislation is a strong standard for keeping pseudoephedrine products out of the hands of meth cooks," Feinstein said.

The bill is weaker than one passed by the Senate in September that would have required cold remedies to be sold from the pharmacy counter. That would have prevented many stores without pharmacies, such as convenience stores and some supermarkets, from carrying the pills.

"We're pleased to see the current compromise," said Tim Hammonds, president and CEO of the Food Marketing Institute, which represents grocery stores and other retailers. "It addresses a serious law enforcement concern, but in a way that balances the need for consumer access to safe and effective products."

Hammonds said he was disappointed the federal bill would not pre-empt more restrictive laws in states like Oklahoma and Iowa, where cold remedies are sold from behind pharmacy counters. At least 37 states have enacted laws to restrict the sale of cold medications to starve meth manufacturers of their key ingredient.

Many leading retailers – including Kmart, Walgreens, Target, Wal-Mart – have already adopted guidelines to limit customer access to cold products or to limit their sales.

Some drug makers have changed the ingredients in cold pills to take out pseudoephedrine and replace it with another substance, phenylephrine, that cannot be used to make meth. A new product called Sudafed PE, is already on store shelves, though the old Sudafed is still available.

The measure would provide nearly $100 million a year for five years to train state and local law enforcement to nab meth offenders and would expand funding to prosecute dealers and clean up environmentally toxic meth labs.

Talent called the measure "the toughest anti-meth bill ever considered by Congress." He predicted that it would help reduce the number of clandestine labs where the illegal drug is made with common items like household cleaners and coffee filters.

The meth problem is particularly severe in the Midwest, where rural areas provide cover for the pungent chemical odor from meth labs. In Missouri, law enforcement officers seized more than 2,700 meth labs last year – more than any other state.

Passage of the measure could take place as early as next week, when Republican leaders press for a vote on the anti-terrorism bill. Some opponents who claim Patriot Act threatens civil liberties are threatening a filibuster unless changes are made.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; antimeth; coldmedicines; congress; meth; poised; restricting; sale; wodlist
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To: digger48

"What percentage of these actually turn themselves around?"

Probably not many without burning a lot of bridges for themselves first.


61 posted on 12/11/2005 6:32:56 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: NormsRevenge; BurbankKarl; All

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20051211-110231-2800r.htm

"The conference report also authorized several contentious provisions of the Patriot Act, including roving wiretaps, 'sneak-and-peek' searches, and secret warrants for books and other records at businesses, hospitals and libraries."

"poised to pass by year's end"


62 posted on 12/12/2005 9:06:04 AM PST by lainie
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To: xrp
Great...treating more and more people like criminals. Just because we get a runny nose.

Another article at Wired: Sens. Jim Talent, R-Missouri, and Dianne Feinstein, D-California, who pushed the legislation in the Senate, insisted the limit was needed to curb the meth epidemic.

It gets worse - some companies are already replacing ingredients in their forumulas to get around this act, leading to much less effective medications.

We already have to do this in Texas.

It's so damned ridiculous it's not even funny - something I've been able to buy the last few years, off the shelf for a decent price, and because of some methheads, you, me, and everybody else is now deemed a criminal and must sign a logbook and show a photo ID.

Yet one more sign the GOP no longer stands for Conservative beliefs - the government has to protect you from everything!
63 posted on 12/12/2005 1:04:44 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: NormsRevenge
How bout a law that says ILLEGALS caught smuggling drugs into the U.S. will be put to death?

Oh I forgot, they are just doing the dealing that Americans just won't do.


64 posted on 12/12/2005 1:07:01 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: lainie
"The conference report also authorized several contentious provisions of the Patriot Act, including roving wiretaps, 'sneak-and-peek' searches, and secret warrants for books and other records at businesses, hospitals and libraries."

"poised to pass by year's end"


Too bad the American people don't get to vote on this, although I have a sinking feeling that the politicians would say that this was to protect America, and they'd wrap the flag around it, and many Americans would automatically baaaaaack them up.

If I told you ten years ago what all was going to transpire over the past few years - lax national security even after 9/11, loss of property rights, now all of this stuff, you would have thought the liberals controlled the White House and Congress.

The Iraqis have been working on a Constitution - we should give them our's - we don't seem to have much use for it.
65 posted on 12/12/2005 3:51:11 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: NormsRevenge

The GOP is reminding us that the nanny state has advocates in both parties.


66 posted on 12/15/2005 7:23:37 AM PST by oblomov
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To: NormsRevenge
Cold remedies that can be used by drug dealers to make methamphetamine would be forced behind store counters

I see no problem with this. It would merely stop the shoplifters. I could still buy my OTC remedies.

67 posted on 12/15/2005 7:24:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (Liberals screwed again: HOLIDAY derives from the words Holy Day. NOW what will they do?)
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To: Spanaway Lori

>>Making meth is illegal.

Apparently. But, if one simply makes meth, what is the injury and who is the injured party?



68 posted on 12/15/2005 7:25:42 AM PST by oblomov
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To: mysterio

"The Republicans have proved themselves to be bigger spenders than the Democrats, and they hold the Constitution in equal contempt. I'm not surprised that they are perpetuating drug warrior madness and embracing statist nonsolutions to the unsolvable nonissue of human intoxication."

If you want limited government, voting Republican is a wasted vote. How long will it take people to figure that out?


69 posted on 12/15/2005 7:36:31 AM PST by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: Lazamataz

What I have a problem with is that retailers are required to keep purchase records. Who is to decide how much Sudafed is "too much", and who has acess to the records? I will simply stop using these products, despite my sinusitus-induced misery.

If a particular retailer chooses to keep such products behind the counter to prevent conversion, that's fine with me.


70 posted on 12/15/2005 7:55:04 AM PST by oblomov
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To: garandgal
..only about 10% of meth was actually "homegrown"

If the law will help shut down 10% of meth labs in rural AZ, it is worth it. Meth affects the children of the users so much that even this small % would be an improvement.

71 posted on 12/15/2005 8:08:53 AM PST by GWfan
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To: Spanaway Lori
Should it be, given that government can't repeal the law of supply and demand, and that our last Prohibition caused more problems than it solved?

You're actually asking if meth should remain illegal?

Yes. Will you answer the question?

72 posted on 12/16/2005 7:06:59 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

I don't think the law of supply and demand has one damn thing to do with it. Meth is a horrible drug, far more destructive. You think everything should be legalized just because it can be supplied? Your line of thinking borders on insanity.


73 posted on 12/16/2005 9:34:28 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: Spanaway Lori
I don't think the law of supply and demand has one damn thing to do with it.

Why wouldn't it, since meth is demanded and supplied?

Meth is a horrible drug, far more destructive.

How does that revoke the law of supply and demand?

You think everything should be legalized just because it can be supplied?

I think it causes more problems than it solves to try to ban acts that in and of themselves violate nobody's rights.

74 posted on 12/19/2005 3:32:42 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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