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To: GarySpFc

And the fact that parents and adult children can't get here should bother me, why?

They need college degrees? Don't make me laugh, I live in CA and I know plenty of people who are immigrants that don't even have high school degrees due to their anchor baby(ies). Check out the test scores in California schools (by ethnicity) or see how many hospitals have closed in this state due to illegal immigration, then tell me that immigration is always and forever good. Or better yet, check the crime stats.

Excessive immigration lowers native fertility (as well as social cohesion, witness France). It's time to encourage native reproduction, and also past time to end the outdated SS system, and move to privitization.

I personally know Senator Sam Brownback, and have weekly contact with his immigration aides. Now, please tell me about your work experience or knowledge of the issue.

I believe our Founding Fathers have addressed this point in the Federalist Papers, etc, so you'll just have to live with us lesser mortals (aka the great unwashed) having opinions that you disagree with.

I have news for you. The foreign students we have in graduate programs in this country ARE NOT STAYING, but are electing to return home. Furthermore, the number of Americans earning graduate degrees in the hard sciences is rapidly declining,

Between 1983 and 1999, the number of foreign students in science and engineering rose 6% (to 26%) of the total (National Science Foundation figures). If you want US students to study science and engineering, why not give them preference at American universities? You've just made the point for me that we are far better off investing in OUR OWN PEOPLE. I am continuously amazed at this tunnel vision idea that only immigrants will save us.

You also might want to do research about the impacts of mass immigration on native born wages, etc.

I'd suggest Matloff's paper on the HB-1 Visa program and it's effect on American employment/education.


76 posted on 12/11/2005 1:47:29 PM PST by bordergal
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To: bordergal
They need college degrees? Don't make me laugh, I live in CA and I know plenty of people who are immigrants that don't even have high school degrees due to their anchor baby(ies). Check out the test scores in California schools (by ethnicity) or see how many hospitals have closed in this state due to illegal immigration, then tell me that immigration is always and forever good. Or better yet, check the crime stats.

A college degree will not get you in America. Anchor baby ties are not even remotely connected to legal immigration. Furthermore, you blindly connect illegal to legal immigration in the above listed point. Additionally, higher crime stats are due to illegal immigration, NOT LEGAL immigration. One-third of our prison population is comprised of illegal aliens.

Excessive immigration lowers native fertility (as well as social cohesion, witness France). It's time to encourage native reproduction, and also past time to end the outdated SS system, and move to privitization.

Please show me a scientific study connecting legal immigration to a decreased fertility rate? Once again you don't know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. LEGAL immigrants assimilate, illegal immigrants do not. I also would like to see SS eliminated, but to even think it might happen is living in a fairy tale world. I would like to know how you are going to raise fertility rates? It sounds like you have Hitler's program in mind.

I believe our Founding Fathers have addressed this point in the Federalist Papers, etc, so you'll just have to live with us lesser mortals (aka the great unwashed) having opinions that you disagree with.

Oh, please tell me what the Federalist Papers have to say about immigration?

Between 1983 and 1999, the number of foreign students in science and engineering rose 6% (to 26%) of the total (National Science Foundation figures). If you want US students to study science and engineering, why not give them preference at American universities? You've just made the point for me that we are far better off investing in OUR OWN PEOPLE. I am continuously amazed at this tunnel vision idea that only immigrants will save us.

The tunnel vision is your own. If you check on this site you will find an article posted within the past week regarding science and engineering students. American students do have the preference, but they are going into fields that pay more...legal and accounting. Yes, I have studied the wages for native born, legal immigrants, and illegals aliens.

I'd suggest Matloff's paper on the HB-1 Visa program and it's effect on American employment/education.

I do not support the H-1B program. Please tell me what in the world H-1B visas have to do with chain migration...in a word nothing.

Oh wait, Brownback is the Senator with a lifetime rating on immigration votes of "D" and a recent rating of "D-" from the Better Immigration folks.

I don't agree with Senator Brownback's immigration views.

Respectively, your statements regarding immigration reflect those of a bigot.
78 posted on 12/11/2005 7:33:51 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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