Democratic Implosion. Can the party of the people be saved from itself?

NRO ^ | December 09, 2005, 9:08 a.m. | Victor Davis Hanson

[.cnI redruM]

They can't get past the early 1970's. That's the last time the Dems were able to succeed as who they really are.

[wvobiwan]

I dont' want them to be saved. Let them continue the madness, we need more Republicans in the govt.

[samtheman]

Yet the war was later lost mostly because a partisan antiwar Senate, emboldened by Watergate and in hatred of a duplicitous Nixon, cut off most material and military aid to the south Vietnamese. That precluded as well American air support to deter an opportunistic conventional invasion from a calculating northern army that had quickly sized up the politics of the U.S. Congress.

History is written by the winners. The Left (at home and abroad) won the Vietnam War. The truth of how close they came to losing will never by publicly known.

[BenLurkin]

>*&

[Solamente]

STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN KERRY

RE: COMMENCEMENT OF MILITARY STRIKES IN IRAQ

Thursday, March 20, 2003

WASHINGTON, DC – Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to the commencement of military strikes in Iraq:

“It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory, this is our common mission and the world’s cause. We're in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq.”

http://kerry.senate.gov/high/record.cfm?id=191582

[.cnI redruM]

beautiful.

[sionnsar]

It never was "the party of the people."

It has always been, and remains, "the party of those who want to rule the people" and their useful fools.

[.cnI redruM]

So what does he believe has changed between now and then?

[mosquitobite]

ping for later read

[Dark Skies]

History is written by the winners. The Left (at home and abroad) won the Vietnam War. The truth of how close they came to losing will never by publicly known.

IMHO, that is precisely the problem. Pacifism is at best a balancing force in the world. It isn't supposed to actually ever win because it isn't functional...sissies never really rule the playground.

Unfortunately, when Washington decided to pull-out of Vietnam, the pacifists interpreted that as VICTORY and they have been waiting until now to use the delusional political capital they believe they accumulated at that time.

Truly, the patients are now running the asylum.

[samtheman]

Unfortunately, when Washington decided to pull-out of Vietnam, the pacifists interpreted that as VICTORY and they have been waiting until now to use the delusional political capital they believe they accumulated at that time.

I have to correct you here, Dark Skies.

This was not a victory for pacifism. These people were not pacifists. This was a victory for communism. These people were traitors, aiding and abetting the communist victory.

[Dark Skies]

This was not a victory for pacifism. These people were not pacifists. This was a victory for communism. These people were traitors, aiding and abetting the communist victory.

You are of course correct. It wasn't a victory for the pacifists...but don't tell them. I don't think Dean is a communist (yet) because he isn't sure what the word means. I think many idiots start out as useful and idealistic pacifists and get sucked into the commie world view.

I agree that the dem's are leaning awfully far to the left but I think (as I said) the guys at the helm of the party are loooonies (not that purebred commies aren't).

[Paulus Invictus]

"Dean, Kerry, and Murtha are bright and good men."

Surely the writer jests! How are they bright and good? Bright: intelligent, clever, quick, alert. Good: honorable, virtuous, ethical, devout, kind, truthful. I see very few signs of these attributes in the RATs mentioned in the article. Truth is, these guys are the very antithesis of those attributes. Gag!

[samtheman]

Yes. I agree with you. Most American dim-witted pacifists are not communists. Most don't understand the meaning of the word, as you say. And you agreed with me that the victory in Vietnam was for communism, not for pacifism. You only have to consider how many died after the war ended to realize that.

It's a complicated subject. When you have a huge chunk of the American electorate who are willing to allow the enemy to win, and even aid and abet the enemy, without realizing it, it's hard to define who they are and what they are doing. Are many simply idiots? Of course. Are many others actual traitors? Absolutely.

There's a whole specture of stupid-evil leftists in America, and we always have to be careful who we are talking about and in what context.

[samtheman]

this is my pick for the best toon of '05

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>"Dean, Kerry, and Murtha are bright and good men."

The next html standards conference needs to adopt a set of approved sarcasm tags.

[MissyMa]

Ping!!

[Starboard]

Dean, Kerry, and Murtha are bright and good men who rightly worry that more Americans will die in a far-off place for a cause that they think is now hopeless.

While this may be true for Murtha, Dean and Kerry are simply policital opportunists of the worst kind who only worry about wresting power back from Republicans.

Excellent article. Thanks.

[nightdriver]

"How odd to be effusive over the Democrat whose advice you reject while ignoring the spokesman whose advice you actually follow."

Agreed!

But there you have the very essence of liberalism. Since they are "liberated" from all absolutes, saying one thing and doing another is easy.

[ricks_place]

Kerry then admitted that he had been brainwashed by President Bush and the WMD intelligence and the Swift-boat Veterans. He regretted this brainwashing and his subsequent vote authorizing the war against Saddam.