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Christmas debate at Manhasset tree lighting
Newsday ^
| 12/09/05
| CAROL EISENBERG
Posted on 12/09/2005 5:37:14 AM PST by Pikamax
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:37:14 AM PST
by
Pikamax
To: Pikamax
Nice story, thanks for posting it.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:42:15 AM PST
by
PeteB570
(Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
To: Pikamax
snip..Still, Zientarski issued a call to arms to everyone on his e-mail list to defend Christmas. "Call your stores and encourage them to say, 'Merry Christmas' (and Happy Hannukah too)," he wrote. "Look for those Nativity scenes! We should all be proud to be Christians who believe in the Lord, Our Savior, and we should encourage ALL faiths to be people of 'faith,' not 'holidays' and the secular."
Exactly. Enough already of the secularization of Christmas and Hanukah.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:45:50 AM PST
by
NYer
(“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
To: Pikamax
lol. Kaiman's insane. the unreligious blessing by a priest. lol.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:46:52 AM PST
by
Brooklyn Kid
(What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
To: Pikamax
the Rev. Nick Zientarski invoked the name of Jesus Christ...
Has the man taken leave of his senses? Doesn't he care about others sensibilities? What century does he live in? What on earth is he doing taking hard earned freedoms and abusing them? Where is a KORAN when you need one? Someone, stop me, the sarcasm virus is taking me over.....aaaaaghh!
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:49:00 AM PST
by
vimto
(Life isn't a dry run)
To: Pikamax
Happened to me last evening. Wished a storekeeper a Merry Christmas. He told me he was Jewish. I then wished him a Happy Hanukah, he wished me Merry Christmas.
Simple enough.
The only challenge I've directly received was by the muslim male who told me I couldn't say Merry Christmas to him or anyone else because "this is America and you're not allowed to do that"...
So who really is behind getting rid of Christmas and Hanukah?
To: Pikamax
I am so glad people fought back. Thank God Kerry was not elected.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:51:34 AM PST
by
Dallas59
(“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
To: Pikamax
Sets up and interesting possible scenario...If suddenly tens of thousands of "egregious and shameful acknoledgents of a religious basis for Christmas" began to happen, the ACLU would implode. Death by a thousand [nativity] cuts, as it were.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:52:24 AM PST
by
xcamel
(a system poltergeist stole it.)
To: Pikamax
"I have to tell you that Manhasset is in an uproar" over Kaiman's remarks, said Christine Roberts, who is Jewish and attended the ceremony with her two sons. "It really was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time. "
What in the heck did she expect? It was a CHRISTmas Tree Lighting.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:56:55 AM PST
by
Mathews
(Shot... Splash... Out!)
To: Mathews
Ms. Roberts is not the problem. She was upset that Kaiman (the town official) gave the Catholic priest a hard time about giving a blessing. (And since she's Jewish, she's one of the ones that Kaiman was SO worried about offending . . . sheesh!)
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:02:50 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: Mathews
" What in the heck did she expect? It was a CHRISTmas Tree Lighting."
As a Jew, I have particularly great insight into this situation: She was probably expecting a Chistmas tree lighting, not hate speech from some lame liberal politician.
To: Pikamax
it's not the same nassau county i moved into twenty-five years ago.
To: Mathews
Why was she there then???????? It is a Christmas tree. Duh!
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:13:57 AM PST
by
cubreporter
(I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
To: baseballmom
we should encourage ALL faiths to be people of 'faith,' not 'holidays' and the secular." The irony of the "happy Holidays" crowd is they don't even realise the derivation of the word "holiday"..
Think about it....
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:14:36 AM PST
by
Wil H
To: AnAmericanMother
Oh well we misunderstood. The way it was written it made it look like SHE was upset. I understand now...she was upset at the so called Town Official. Well, good for her.
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:15:06 AM PST
by
cubreporter
(I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
To: Pikamax
This country is beginning to wake up. The demand for religious freedom in stirring. Keep it up! Write or phone your stores, local government, etc., and keep the wave going. WE MUST SPEAK UP or lose our religious freedom rights.
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:15:50 AM PST
by
kitkat
(Democrat/Socialist/Communist.= Hillary the RED)
To: Wil H
I don't think anybody objected to the word "holiday" until the secularist loonies hijacked it.
It IS ironic . . . but they have spoiled the word, much as other activists have spoilt such words as "gay" . . .
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:17:14 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: AnAmericanMother
hmmmm, I might start saying Happy Holy Day.
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posted on
12/09/2005 6:26:36 AM PST
by
Mercat
(God loves us where He finds us.)
To: AnAmericanMother
I am so sick of the entire situation. Everyday there are posts about this subject. I can't wait until 26 December when we will be discussing the issues again. Believe me, I am Catholic so I take Christmas very seriously, but for goodness sake, this has just really gotten out of control. I am glad that I am stationed in Italy (extremely Catholic Country, they had off yesterday for Immaculate Conception (Federal Holiday)!!!) and except for this great website, I am out of the entire mess. Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!
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