Nooo... You don't say. I'm shocked that you think that way.
Shocked, I tell you!
Posted on 12/08/2005 10:31:44 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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Good idea...not a week goes buy without a bust on counterfeiting SS cards operations. Illegals know not to leave home without both a fake SS and green card.
anybody surprised?? The GOP statists never surprise me, I don't have high hopes for them anyway
This jerk is clueless.
Has he ever filed a Federal Income Tax Reurn? Has he ever received a State Driver's license?
Has he ever served in the United States Military? Has he ever obtained a United State Passport? Has he ever gotten a marriage license?...
The list is endless.
Could this increase the rate of identity theft? If an illegal alien wanted a job that required verification of legal status (citizen, resident alien, or nonresident alien), couldn't he just assume a false identity (real name and SSN, fake picture ID and fake SS card with real info)? Suddenly, stealing citizens' wallets would become more lucrative.
Under the current system, employers can verify SSN's, but many employers of illegal aliens don't bother and there is no enforcement. It seems the priorities should be to enforce existing immigration laws and to reinforce border fences before enacting new laws.
Recently, the police department of Costa Mesa, CA, (near the border between Orange Co. and Los Angeles Co.) decided to verify the immigration status of people detained for crimes and to call the USCIS if the criminal has a long crime record to help remove the worst of the illegal aliens. Illegal aliens stopped for petty offenses like jaywalking (with no criminal record) would not be reported to the USCIS, probably because the police know that the USCIS wouldn't bother to pick up such illegal aliens for a lack of resources. This action is considered "controversial" because the illegal alien lobby opposes having any cooperation between the police and the border patrol.
Cooperation between local police and the USCIS to deport the worst of the illegal aliens would be a much more useful change than a national ID card.
Nooo... You don't say. I'm shocked that you think that way.
Shocked, I tell you!
"Recently, the police department of Costa Mesa, CA, (near the border between Orange Co. and Los Angeles Co.) decided to verify the immigration status of people detained for crimes and to call the USCIS if the criminal has a long crime record to help remove the worst of the illegal aliens."
Night before last, the Costa Mesa City Council became the first city to vote (3-2) for police to determine immigration status, and turn illegals over to Federal authorities. (First city to do so).
Costa Mesa also shut down their day laborer employment center, after 17 years.
Likewise the Orange County Sheriff is moving towards similar practices.
All part of the trend of local government doing what the Feds are responsible for doing, but are NOT doing.
Congress doodles along. Bush doodles along.
What little is being done at the national level is NOT because of California, Texas. It is because of Iowa and Georgia and other places, are now getting their (small doses) of what their politicos would NOT help California with in the past.
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The employers I talked to all wished the US had photo SS cards. Just the document presence alone will greatly slow illegal immigration. Think about it.
The photo SS cards are a key to curbing illegal immigration. If you want to address the problem seriously, the SS card is the first step.
Photo Social Security Cards?? We can't even get photo ID's to be shown before voting.
A national database with a swipe card is essential. The effect will be huge.
Our social security cards are the same as those in the 40's and before, they are from a bygone era.
I agree with you. I've had a national ID for almost 40 years...it's called a passport.
This is a case of the wrong tool for the job. Close the damn borders down. You did it after 9/11 you can do it again.
Did you vote for McCain?
You only need a passport to travel in and out of the country.
And?
Sorry but I missed your point.
Actually, referring to your post #16, a photo ID would only be part of a more draconian program that would include closing the border, heavy and enforced fines on employers, and most importantly, eliminating anchor babies.
I used to be against the concept of a photo ID but, what with the aforementioned passport, and having been in the military, not to mention my drivers license, I've actually been subjected to this form of ID for decades.
So what's to fear?
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