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Spiral Arm Of Milky Way Looms Closer Than Thought
New Scientist ^ | 12-8-2005 | Maggie McGee

Posted on 12/08/2005 3:16:16 PM PST by blam

Spiral arm of Milky Way looms closer than thought

19:00 08 December 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Maggie McKee

The Milky Way is made of four main arms curving around its centre – astronomers measured the distance from Earth to a star-forming region called W3OH inside the Perseus arm (Image: Y. Xu et al/Science)

One of the Milky Way's star-studded spiral arms lies twice as close to Earth as some previous estimates suggested. New research has produced the most accurate distance measurement ever made of the arm, which could help astronomers understand how our galaxy's spiral structure formed.

The Milky Way appears to be made up of four main arms that curve around its centre like a pinwheel. "However, our view from the interior makes it difficult to determine its spiral structure," writes a team led by Ye Xu of the Shanghai Astronomical Observatory in China, in Science.

Measuring the distance to the spiral arms can be particularly tricky. This is because astronomers can only measure the speed of an astronomical object in terms of how fast it is moving towards or away from the Earth. Comparing this speed to theoretical models, which assume the objects travel on circular paths around the centre of the galaxy, allows astronomers to deduce the object's distance from Earth.

Astronomers using this technique had previously estimated the distance to Perseus, the arm immediately beyond the Sun, at more than 13,000 light years. But other researchers arrived at half that distance using a method that compares the apparent brightness of massive, young stars with estimates of their intrinsic brightness.

Now Xu's team has used a third technique - 100 times more accurate than the other two - to conclude the Perseus arm is indeed relatively close, at just 6400 light years from Earth.

Hawaii to the Caribbean

They used a system of 10 radio dishes that boasts the sharpest vision of any telescope in existence. Called the Very Long Baseline Array (VLBA), the dishes - each spanning 25 metres - are scattered from Hawaii to the Caribbean Sea.

They focused on a star-forming region called W3OH inside the Perseus arm. Bright, young stars in the region heat methanol vapour in gas clouds around them, which in turn emits radio waves in what are called "masers".

The team tracked the masers at five intervals over the course of a year, determining their distance by "triangulating" their observed positions from different points along Earth's orbit.

"We used our changing vantage point to form one leg of a triangle," says team member Mark Reid, an astronomer at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US. "Then, measuring the change in angle of the source as the Earth orbits the Sun, we can calculate the source's distance by simple trigonometry."

They found that W3OH is not moving in a perfectly circular orbit but instead follows an elliptical path, as if drawn along the Perseus spiral arm. "It seems to be indicating that the spiral arms may have a higher density than previously guessed," Reid told New Scientist.

The team will now use the VLBA to measure the distances to a dozen star-forming regions spread across several of the Milky Way's spiral arms. "We hope to use such data to better understand how spiral arms form," says Reid.

Journal reference: Science (DOI: 10.1126/science.1120914)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arm; closer; looks; milky; spiral; than; thought; way
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To: blam
Whenever I see a picture like this, it makes me wonder whether or not it has been corrected for relativistic effects. Does this picture represent the positions of the arms as presently measurable from earth, or has it been "adjusted" to correct for the time difference between one end and the other. I'm guessing that it has not been adjusted which explains why it doesn't look much like a spiral.

JSL
61 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:44 PM PST by free_at_jsl.com
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To: free_at_jsl.com

Check the links in post #3 and #6. Your answer may be there.


62 posted on 12/08/2005 8:44:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
...twice as close ...

I assume that this really means "half as distant."

63 posted on 12/08/2005 8:46:27 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: blam

Yeah, that's about right we live in the suburbs.


64 posted on 12/08/2005 9:09:04 PM PST by demlosers
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To: samadams2000
"Bright, young stars in the region heat methanol"

... at many a trendy nightclub.

65 posted on 12/08/2005 9:15:11 PM PST by JasonC
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To: blam

Someone help me here. I am familiar with Saggitarius, Perseus, Carina, Crux (the southern cross), but Scutum and Norma? Never heard of any constellation, or subset of one, by those names.


66 posted on 12/08/2005 9:28:52 PM PST by sasportas
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To: blam; 75thOVI; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; CGVet58; chilepepper; ckilmer; ...

The Universe and the Curtis - Shapley Debate: Lecture
by Robert J. Nemiroff and Jerry T. Bonnell
http://staff.imsa.edu/science/astro/astrometry/historical/debate_1920a.html

"...Shapley thought that the Galaxy was so large it was essentially the whole universe. Shapley not only based his opinion on the distribution of globular clusters and the distances to globular clusters, but on the apparently measured rotation velocities of spiral nebulae... Shapley also did not believe that spiral nebulae were galaxies in their own right. At the time of the Great Debate, he thought that spiral nebula were gaseous clouds repelled by the light pressure of our Galaxy and that our Galaxy was moving through these clouds."


67 posted on 12/08/2005 10:47:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: RightWhale
Bingo! The Orion arm.


68 posted on 12/08/2005 10:53:28 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: sit-rep
I can put you in a nice Ford Galaxy. No spiral arm, but the control arm should have a little life in her.


69 posted on 12/08/2005 11:02:52 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Boycott taglines that don't say Merry Christmas!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
I didn't realize they still make 'em.

They still make Necco Wafers? Gawd, I loved those as a kid!

CA....

70 posted on 12/08/2005 11:06:21 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Larry Lucido

...heck.... I'll take it!!


71 posted on 12/09/2005 4:53:50 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: FreeRep; HighlyOpinionated

I was actually offering a readable explanation for folks who may not understand the math or the theory.


72 posted on 12/09/2005 7:01:46 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer; FreeRep; HighlyOpinionated
I was actually offering a readable explanation for folks who may not understand the math or the theory.

I think most people on this forum are familiar with your wonderful efforts to provide knowledge to those of us less informed on space and the science involved. Unfortunately, some would reply to your generous offer with sarcasm. I love sarcasm but there is a time and a place. A reply to you wasn't it. Keep up the good work. Most of us enjoy your posts.

73 posted on 12/09/2005 10:15:05 AM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: saganite
"..it appears we live in the armpit of the galaxy."

There's worse places!

74 posted on 12/09/2005 10:30:10 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: FOG724; RadioAstronomer; FreeRep; HighlyOpinionated; blam
This is a good thread, keep up the good work. I do enjoy your all the posts and was not being sarcastic. A little humor sometimes get the best of me. The Milky Way is a barred spiral galaxy and barred spiral galaxies are relatively common, up to two-thirds of all spiral galaxies contain a bar and over time they transform into a spiral galaxies. Each spiral arm, four major spiral arms in our galaxy, our Sun is in a smaller arm "the Orion Arm." If the arms do collide, it is thought that our sun and other stars will not collide with other Suns, but merge to form larger spur over the course of about a billion. The color of the sky (universe) called "Cosmic Latte" and has been determined to be a Blueish white. Again we enjoy your posts and thanks.
75 posted on 12/09/2005 12:58:48 PM PST by FreeRep
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