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To: gondramB

"Basically they found a loophole to make this one case go away so they continue to prevent freedom of movement."

BS and you know it. She is free to go anywhere she wishes, including the secure federal facility. She just has to show her ID to enter it, like everybody else. "Freedom of movement" (whatever that is) is in NO WAY prevented.

If you all are in such a bunch about this, I suggest you go to your nearest secure federal facility and demand to enter without ID. Come on, put your money where your mouths are if you feel your rights are being taken away. Throw a big childish hissy in front of the other people there and the LEOs that have no say in the matter, like this woman did. Maybe you too with be a hero to the kooky liberals and anti-government paranoids.


23 posted on 12/08/2005 9:17:02 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: L98Fiero
I can drive by the USGS office, BLM offices, Forest service, IRS, GSA, in dozens of cities with a Ryder truck loaded with who knows what. That's all she was riding by here in this "Public Welcome" "secure facility".

Is there anyone here who is on the side of the ID checkers who was never a government employee? No one admitted this on the other long thread. I think this is all about government lovers versus liberty lovers.
32 posted on 12/08/2005 9:22:32 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: L98Fiero

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If you all are in such a bunch about this, I suggest you go to your nearest secure federal facility and demand to enter without ID. Come on, put your money where your mouths are if you feel your rights are being taken away. Throw a big childish hissy in front of the other people there and the LEOs that have no say in the matter, like this woman did. Maybe you too with be a hero to the kooky liberals and anti-government paranoids."

I have to concede you have a point - the previous article I had read had not made it clear that the buss was passing through a Federal facility and I didn't read this article closely enough.

But in general, requiring ID to pass freely on the streets has been historically used to restrict freedom of movement and our country is moving closer to that - rather than being severe with violators our country has a tendency to simply reduce everyone's rights.


35 posted on 12/08/2005 9:23:32 AM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: L98Fiero
If you all are in such a bunch about this, I suggest you go to your nearest secure federal facility and demand to enter without ID.

There are many federal offices where you can just walk in. SBA offices are mostly like this.

39 posted on 12/08/2005 9:26:21 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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