[claudiustg]

---Nor could any court in its right mind expunge Dec. 25 from the list of federal holidays.---

Which means there really is a danger of its happening. :^)

[L98Fiero]

OK. The first half the article describes liberals fight against the word "Christmas" and the last half says there is no such thing. I'm not sure I get this article.

[frogjerk]

It's especially dumb when you consider that no one tries to rename the Hanukka menorahs that are often placed besides the trees in public spaces.

Good point! Why isn't this renamed to the Holiday Candelabra?

[dynachrome]

"conservative whining" Being against the removal of Christmas is not whining!

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

The term "Happy Holidays!" is not offensive to me as a Christian, nor should it become so. Too many seem willing to be offended by it.

That being said, the secularization of a day I consider to be Holy has become blatant in the last few years. The assertion that it is ok to offend me because by that offense others will be spared offense is ludicrous.

That is regulating me, based entirely on my being a Christian, to second-class citizen status. This is intolerable action by those screaming loudest for tolerance.

[aimhigh]

hard-core conservative Christians should realize that the fears and insecurity felt by the other side are real.

What hogwash. Christians aren't telling Jews to stop their celebrations, or keep them hidden. Christians aren't telling Jews that any mention of Hanukka is offensive. I know from experience what it's like to get an employee wide email telling everyone not to say "Merry Christmas." And it comes from the same liberals who tell us to be inclusive.

[Corin Stormhands]

Perhaps what this country really needs at the end of the calendar year is not so much a holiday season as a cease-fire.

Amen.

[GOPJ]

But recently the sound of Jewish complaining has been drowned out by another contingent of malcontents: Christians who claim that church-state separation mania has transformed the celebration of Christmas into a forbidden activity.

There's a special sweetness with huddling together celebrating our forbidden customs...

[IronJack]

insecurity always trumps common sense

Else, to paraphrase Robert Browning, what's an ACLU for?

[RatRipper]

"Moreover, Christianity is not America's problem. The freedoms that all Americans enjoy here do not exist in spite of a Bible-based Christianity, but to no small extent because of the faith and values of Christian Americans."

Why can't Leftists understand this undeniable truth?

[pwatson]

I only wish this was just Right Wing Paranoia. However, it is much more sinister than that. I am not much for Conspiracy plots and this is not one of them, but it sure looks like one. There is a movement, out in the open for all Communist, Socialist, Democrats, Atheist, Islamic Jihadist to join. It is a movement of all the enemies of Conservatives, Capitalist and Christians to try and destroy our side. We have all the Democrats attacking our Troops calling them terrorist and asking for immediate pull out because the public polls have lost support. We have all the Main stream Media non stop barrage of any thing anti Bush, or the WOT. Is it any wonder that more than 50% of the population when polled is negative about the war when half the elected officials and all the old news media say it is bad and Bush lied. Is it not just a little suspicious that all of a sudden all the retail giants and many governments are saying "happy Holiday and Holiday tree" instead of Merry Christmas and Christmas tree? We have ample reason to be concerned yes there is a movement to destroy Christmas, Christan's, Conservatives and Capitalism. It is called an unholy alliance between the Communist and Islamic Jihadist.

[DustyMoment]

Personally, I have no problem wishing my Jewish friends "Happy Hannukah". Ironically, Jews have been among the strongest supporters of Christmas and, IMO, they have benefitted from it. Having a nativity scene side-by-side with a Menorrah on public land is the perfect way to honor the traditions of the season in a country that was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

The recent anti-Christian attacks on Christmas were not initiated by Jews, but by anti-American, anti-Christian leftists. America without Christmas would be like the earth without people.

[beeler]

Conservative Christians finally start fighting back against leftist secularism the Left acts as if they have nothing to do with the culture war. I love to see these punks on the defensive for a change.

[Alouette]

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

[RegulatorCountry]

OK, Mr. Tobin. It's farcical, driven by irrational insecurity.

So, we'll just have to assume that renaming the Menorah a "holiday candelabra" will be utterly inoffensive to you as well, no?

[CIB-173RDABN]

I want to make sure I fully understand his argument. Now that his side has mostly won the cultural war removing religion from the public square, and the other side is begining to fight back, we should call a truce and live with the status quo.

Like a frog in a slowly heating pan of water, the Christians of this nation have finally woke up and said enough, and they are the one whining.

Yeah, I think I understand it now.

[VeniVidiVici]

That's alright, Mr Tobin. You may belittle the fact that we think they are trying to stamp-out Christmas, but this same group isn't aimed at Hanukkah but at the Jews themselves.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I think America could really demonstrate what a pluralist, diverse, open-minded, non-chr*stian country it is by erecting Ten Commandments monuments in public parks for Shavu`ot. And anyone who complains is a chr*stian bigot!

[Semper Paratus]

Would like to see a list of public and private entities that eschew Christmas this year but will embrace Kwaanza.

[familyop]

I don't watch television, but it appears from written news that a few opinion makers on television are disseminating propaganda stating that there is some kind of Jewish war against Christian symbols (whether they say it all or infer it, as usual). That's no new propaganda tactic. It's been recycled many times over the past 1700 years or so.

Meanwhile, there are pentagrams and illuminated, plastic idols all over the peaks up here, and the few neo-Nazi neighbors are looking forward to burning their yule logs and speaking occasionally and freely of their wishes for a "race war" (although their obesity would prevent them from waging war on anything more than fatty meats and pastries).

...point is that there is nothing to get excited about. If someone who owns a store wants to try to please customers of all religions with generalities, this is truly a country with freedom of religious expression. Store owners have the right to express what they wish (even generalizations). Property owners of all kinds should demand constitutional respect for their right to express religious celebrations as they wish.