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'Army of One' Ad Campaign Dropped
Newsmax.com ^ | December 8, 2005 | Newsmax.com

Posted on 12/08/2005 3:52:44 AM PST by armydawg1

The news is not that the ad agency is changing, the untold news is ...........


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ads; advertising; armyofone; moretothis; recruitment; shinsekisfolly; usarmy
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I don't think the Navy has even close to the number of AC as the Air Force.


121 posted on 12/08/2005 6:59:51 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: NAVY84

You'll have to attend the Army Officer Transportation Advanced Course (Seaborne) in Virginia - as I did. Like it or not, the US Army moves the bulk of wartime materials and does it through the Military Sealift Command.


122 posted on 12/08/2005 7:03:05 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: BeAllYouCanBe

123 posted on 12/08/2005 7:03:25 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Dick Vomer

However, it is hard to protect your country when you forgot to load a magazine into your M16!

124 posted on 12/08/2005 7:06:02 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

But, hey, he shows the typical Jarhead fortitude:
Charging headlong at the enemy after you've forgotten to load your weapon ;)


125 posted on 12/08/2005 7:13:26 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Both Chesty and Patton would have a hard time with today's civilian "leadership". Many of our elected officials don't have the backbone to withstand one day of Iwo Jima or Omaha Beach casualties. Thank God our Army and Marine Corps do!


126 posted on 12/08/2005 7:14:56 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SIDENET

It's not a recruiting station, it's a "career center."


127 posted on 12/08/2005 7:15:44 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: armydawg1

Needling the army is a fine art, too bad the same can't be said about the jibs the Army uses on the Marines.

yuck yuck know why they call um jarheads, because their hair cuts look like lids on a jar.....

A haircut the Marines stole from the Army by the way, from paratroopers during WWII. Marines trained with the first Airborne units and then formed, I kid you not, The "ParaMarines".

We kept the haircuts and the bloused trousers.

The liberalization of the Army has destroyed all it's great traditions, the fact that Marines fight so fiercely for their traditions is what makes The Marines "The Marines".

U.S. Army: Defending Our Nation Proudly.

^^Madison Advenue can send me the check, I'll donate all but 1% to Navy Relief.


128 posted on 12/08/2005 7:19:24 AM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Does anyone else find these numbers STAGGERING?

Pauley Shore could have done better with less.

Remember "In The Army Now"? with Pauley in the Army Reserves?

129 posted on 12/08/2005 7:20:52 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: armydawg1

That slogan was liked about as much as black berets around our house.


130 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:40 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: armymarinemom

Army???? how about: Ain't Real Marines Yet.


131 posted on 12/08/2005 7:25:36 AM PST by Denny0205 (Life is tough; it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: usmcobra

I will agree on the liberalization of the Army.
Too many careerist generals would either;
a) refuse to fall on their swords as a matter of principle or,
b) actively promote the liberal/feminist agendas that have destroyed our traditions.

I'm reminded of the great USMC general who stood up to enlisting Marines who already had wives and children. I remember all the hell he took and how he stood up to that pressure.


132 posted on 12/08/2005 7:27:41 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: armydawg1

probably unsaid is the fact that the reason the Army (and other services) are meeting their goals now is that the recruiters have switched from benefits-based selling to pushing patriotism. Regardless of what the TV ads say, when recruiters talk to young people face-to-face, they find that up-front patriotism is a great selling point.

"How would you like to serve your country and help defeat the enemy who is threatening our way of life?"

"Yes sir, where do I sign!"

Then you can pitch the benefits to close the deal. The USMC has always been like this (and their ads certainly reflect it). The Army can never match the legends and esprit de corps of the Marines, but they are catching on. I hope the new ad campaign reflects what is working for recruiters.

(Now if they can just get rid of that damnedable beret!)


133 posted on 12/08/2005 7:29:20 AM PST by fnord (497 1/2 feet of rope ... I just carry it)
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To: SJSAMPLE
From what I've found so far, my statement is accurate.

Airforce Inventory from this link, written in 1999: http://www.comw.org/pda/afreadsu.html

Today, the active Air Force employs 13,146 pilots against a stated total requirement of about 14,100. This compares with the approximately 3,470 aircraft of all types in the Primary Aircraft Inventory (PAI), which fills the authorized strength of USAF operational and training units. The Air Force calculates pilot shortages based on its total pilot requirement. Thus, even when there is an official "shortage," the service has significantly more than enough aviators to fly its planes. Indeed, only 7,862 of the USAF's pilots -- or 60 percent of the total -- are actually assigned to billets for operational force cockpits. The rest are assigned to staff positions, to advanced schooling, and to other special duty.

Navy inventory (written in 1987) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/62xx/doc6209/doc20b-Part_4.pdf

3644 combat aircraft

There is room for arguement, because the navy number appears to include rotary-wing aircraft, but it is also only a count of combat aircraft. In any case, the numbers are a lot closer than people may expect.

134 posted on 12/08/2005 7:34:55 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I will prevail. I miss my best friend.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

"Primary Aircraft Inventory" does not include the reserve aircraft that the USAF keeps high and dry. And this includes only the active componet, not the Air Force reserves and Guard. The Navy has the same type of aircraft classifications, but they're included in your total of 3644.

In rotary wing alone, I think the Army beats both those figures ;)


135 posted on 12/08/2005 7:42:06 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Amen to that brother.


136 posted on 12/08/2005 7:43:04 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: fnord

In order to meet extraordinary numbers, the Army has been forced to mass market its appeal. As such, a significant portion of the Army is not the combat arms type. Unfortunately, this affects the Army image as a whole. But go to any Infantry/Armor/Artillery or combat aviation unit you you won't find any lack of esprit.

However, if you want to talk about "legends":
Murphy
York
Pershing
Patton
MacArthur
LeMay
.....

Go out on the street and ask somebody to name a famous soldier or general and what are the chances that they'll name a Marine?

"Legends" or legends to the USMC.
As they say, "There's history, and then there's Marine Corps history."


137 posted on 12/08/2005 7:47:02 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: armydawg1

4, er 5 words,

Clinton (Hillary) Appointee General Shinseki

(who also brought us the feel good move of the year, raspberry berets for everyone)

GET SOME!


138 posted on 12/08/2005 7:47:56 AM PST by railsplitter (with extreme prejudice- destroy the enemy... foreign and domestic)
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To: bobjam
I thought the best slogan was one thought up by the Marine Corps itself. Americas 911 force
Semper Fi
139 posted on 12/08/2005 7:48:29 AM PST by gocats
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To: armydawg1

What a bunch of crap. Everyone knows the Marine Corps is our oldest fighting force, formed in Tun Tavern 10 Nov 1775. What a great organization formed in a bar.


140 posted on 12/08/2005 7:52:13 AM PST by gocats
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