To: mikrofon
Two different visits? Shepherds in Sept at the cave/manger/barn.
Then (about 2-3 years later) the Magi arrived when they were in a regular house. Herod killed all boys less than 3 years old in the first persecution of Christian innocents, so the birth had to be at least 2 years previous to the visit of the foreigners to Herod's court. Doesn't give a city either as I recall.
178 posted on
12/08/2005 8:35:58 AM PST by
Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Herod killed all boys less than 3 years old in the first persecution of Christian innocents, so the birth had to be at least 2 years previous to the visit of the foreigners to Herod's court. Not necessarily. Matthew 2:16 states, "from two years old and under." Several possible variables: 1) how age is counted in a particular culture--is a newborn "one" or "zero"? 2); Herod could have been covering his bases and adding a little cushion, just to be sure; 3) how much time elapsed between the magi's initial appearance in Jerusalem and Herod's realization they weren't coming back; 4) "and under" includes all the younger ones.
Doesn't give a city either as I recall.
It does, several times. Bethlehem.
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
There's a lot of places to poke holes in all of these "theories". For one, Herod's death obviously happened after the Nativity, and that could've been anywhere from 4BC to 1AD, depending on whose records you believe. And that's if there's a rational explanation of the Star to begin with...
As I said, the symbolism of the players in the celestial events and the significance of their names was quite interesting.
188 posted on
12/08/2005 9:32:38 AM PST by
mikrofon
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