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1 posted on 12/07/2005 11:46:31 AM PST by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M

I live in Michigan so I'm immune to hype.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 11:47:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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Damn.

Well, I guess that decides it.


3 posted on 12/07/2005 11:48:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Lying About My Sign-Up Date Since 1998)
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I ahve been saying this for years. And GW wants to bring in mor echeap labor.


4 posted on 12/07/2005 11:48:29 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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Sounds like a left-wing democrat. Everything is bad and nothing is good and they are covert democrats. That is why I canceled my subscription to NewsMax.
5 posted on 12/07/2005 11:49:47 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Willie Green

looks like Sonny M beat you to the punch on this one.


7 posted on 12/07/2005 11:51:27 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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I wonder what he said about the Clinton years, when job growth was fueled by the dot-bomb economy? It seems like our economy has digested that disaster quite well.


8 posted on 12/07/2005 11:52:31 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 2500 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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And in other news....The sky is falling.


No good news to see here folks. Please move along.


9 posted on 12/07/2005 11:52:47 AM PST by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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The only misleading hype is the wretched garbage flowing out of the Maximum LOSER Paul Craig Roberts pen. Mr Roberts bet the farm on attacking Bush, he lost. He is just another irrelevant tin foil hat wearing hysteric. I am surprised anyone still waste our time posting his ignorant nonsense.

I can not figure out which is more appalling. Mr Roberts arrogant refusal to admit error or his complete lack of even the most basic grasp of Economics.

11 posted on 12/07/2005 11:53:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Kerry/Dean Democrats preach lies to cowards, not truth to power.)
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I used to think Paul Craig Roberts conservative.


12 posted on 12/07/2005 11:53:25 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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Who the Hell even works in manufacturing anymore? Gimme a break? I work for a "manufacturing" company and most of our employees are in sales or accounting or service. There are maybe 8 or 9 people actually involved in the "manufacturing".


13 posted on 12/07/2005 11:54:02 AM PST by Smogger
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Spinmeisters made the most out of the 215,000 jobs. Looking beyond the glitter at the real facts, this is what we see.
[...]

Bump

14 posted on 12/07/2005 11:55:28 AM PST by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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"Twenty-one thousand of those jobs were government positions supported by taxpayers"

If that's really true, for one month alone, that's both astounding and disgusting.


15 posted on 12/07/2005 11:56:16 AM PST by Pessimist
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Tell old Paul to get a grip. We are no longer a manufacturing economy, and never will be again. Get over it. The service jobs that he derides are better paying than his statistics show, due to higher levels of deferred compensation, profit-sharing, and other benefits. His cost-of-living numbers are cooked, too - artificially inflated by a short-term spike in energy prices. That will pass, and soon.

Our "trade deficit" is meaningless in a world economy. All those dollars invested in foreign economies are busily creating huge middle classes in places like India and the Pacific Rim - gargantuan future markets for US-based services. Companies like Wal-Mart, Microsoft, and Intel are expanding into those markets, or soon will, and their consumer purchases will flow right back into the US economy, as American investors benefit from higher earnings in their 401(k)'s and IRA's, as well as from American-based jobs servicing foreign clients. Finally, the real estate market is overheated - in very distinct spots (S.Cal, Boston, Miami) - but that's not true of the country as a whole. Too much gloom and doom, when optimism is far more warranted.

23 posted on 12/07/2005 12:14:12 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (In war, the only intelligent exit strategy is Victory.)
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Doomed!
24 posted on 12/07/2005 12:15:24 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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Damn, sounds like Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanon contributed to this chicken little report.


25 posted on 12/07/2005 12:16:41 PM PST by pissant
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THE REALITY IS: USA 2005 = FULL EMPLOYMENT


27 posted on 12/07/2005 12:17:26 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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I call on my fellow proud Conservatives to start using the phrase that best describes the employment boom we have had, and will continue to have.

Full employment
Because it's true.

28 posted on 12/07/2005 12:20:03 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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"However, these gains are more than offset by the job cuts recently announced by General Motors and Ford."

Some of those laid-off workers will be hired by their competitors.

I sold a house to an engineer, leaving GM detroit, and moving to a California position, with Hyandai.

I think he gets employee benefits, too.


29 posted on 12/07/2005 12:22:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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Roberts is a bitter old has-been who decided to get a little attention by bad-mouthing Bush. He used to be a conservative, now he just bitches about "neo-cons".


34 posted on 12/07/2005 12:45:51 PM PST by ozzymandus
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"Very few of these jobs result in tradable services that can be exported or help to close the growing gap in the U.S. balance of trade"

Maybe they just want to feed their families.


42 posted on 12/07/2005 1:36:19 PM PST by waverna
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