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U.S. Jobs in IT Development & Finance Soley Reserved for India
Sierra Times ^ | 12/07/2005 | Diane M. Grassi

Posted on 12/07/2005 5:09:24 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

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America. It's only a matter of time, how much I cannot predict, but the U. S. will resemble a Third World Country within three decades.

Who to thank? Well let's begin with the worst culprit: our congresshogs. Then, before the unions, the thanks goes to the companies that caved in contract after contract and gave the unions what they wanted to the point that they haven't the ability to cover the goodies in "health care" and huge wage benefits. The unions come next because they have demonstrated their macho power to the feeble weasels running the corporations and caused this "approacing Third World Status" scenario.

1 posted on 12/07/2005 5:09:25 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy
usually response here is hey stop whining and start your own business, maybe offshore relocation business

or join the military

the good news is, foreigners wont be coming here looking for work, the multinationals are going over there
2 posted on 12/07/2005 5:13:35 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius

There are enough JOBS in the USA, 5.0% unemployment.

Stop whinning !!


3 posted on 12/07/2005 5:15:48 AM PST by Zenith
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To: FerdieMurphy

Obviously poverty isn't a barrier to getting an adequate education.


4 posted on 12/07/2005 5:16:32 AM PST by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Just to make a different point -- some financial institutions had to pull up their stakes in India as the customers were complaining about the language barrier.

English is the official language of India, but we do not speak it in the same way.

The other point is that politeness is relative. If someone is "politely" trying to sell you something that you don't want but "politely" ignores your comments, is that really a benefit? I see that more from telemarketing calls from India than the US. In the US, I will say no thank you, and the tm will mostly say thank you back. Sure there are those who will snipe back-- that is bad.

But I sure don't want to be chattered at by someone who ignores my no thank you, even if he thinks he's doing it in a pleasant tone. I called Citibank to complain about that call. I made no mention of India or different cultures, just that the caller would not respect my wishes.

I will also say that the database admins that our company had from India -- two of them we called the broken dbas, as they did no work.


5 posted on 12/07/2005 5:18:05 AM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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I always find it amusing when I call technical or customer support for someone and I get someone on the line with a heavy Indian accent who says "Thank you for calling, my name is Ralph."
6 posted on 12/07/2005 5:24:41 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: FerdieMurphy

Is India really all that reliable in protecting the property of the corporations? They must be counting on a 4th Amend in Delhi...a couple of election cycles, and they could see themselves nationalized.


7 posted on 12/07/2005 5:24:59 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: FerdieMurphy

Karma happens.

And let's not forget our trial lawyers.


8 posted on 12/07/2005 5:26:55 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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Who to thank?

Probably all of those who warned that relying on a purely service economy would not work. Welcome to the new United Socialist States; it will not be long before we become another Mexico.
9 posted on 12/07/2005 5:27:54 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Zenith

Yeah, but maybe we want good jobs. Walmart door greeters do not get paid well. Free traitors are killing the middle class.


10 posted on 12/07/2005 5:28:01 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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Obviously poverty isn't a barrier to getting an adequate education.

Not necessarily so obvious.

With a population over one billion, half of whom are illiterate, there is a large pool of educated Indians to draw upon.

A few years back, I read somewhere, Indian universities and technical institutes were producing unemployable graduates.  No available jobs.  Looks like that little problem is being resolved . . . at our national expense.

11 posted on 12/07/2005 5:36:27 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Americans are not stupid people, and they traditionally have outpaced their foreign competitors in productivity and creativity.

Major corporations desert this nation at their own peril.

A large pool or creative, capable people will find a way to bypass all efforts to cut them out.

What will its form be? I'd bet on some kind of "hyper mid-capacity industries" operating on the basis of commission or co-ownership with workers.

How do you defeat low overseas wages? Radical new products that cause the competitor's training and wage advantage to become obsolete.


12 posted on 12/07/2005 5:44:01 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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"I always find it amusing when I call technical or customer support for someone and I get someone on the line with a heavy Indian accent who says "Thank you for calling, my name is Ralph."

That's funny !! A few weeks ago I called both AT&T, Delta, and BellSouth. I got the same response from all three of them ( in an Indian accent )" Hello, my name is Eric !! " That Eric really gets around !!! :-)


13 posted on 12/07/2005 5:55:59 AM PST by Codeograph
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America. It's only a matter of time, how much I cannot predict, but the U. S. will resemble a Third World Country within three decades.

Allow me to correct this statement:

America. It's only a matter of time, how much I cannot predict, but the U. S. will resemble a Third World be a european style socialist Country within three decades.

14 posted on 12/07/2005 5:56:31 AM PST by austinite
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To: Racehorse

"A few years back, I read somewhere, Indian universities and technical institutes were producing unemployable graduates. No available jobs. Looks like that little problem is being resolved . . . at our national expense."

Many of these IT jobs are now farmed out to Vietnam. Apparently they have better IT people.


15 posted on 12/07/2005 6:08:16 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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This is off the topic but, given your experience with multiple Erics:

Customer: Hello, I would like to buy a fish license, please.
Shopkeeper: A what?
C: A license for my pet fish, Eric.
S: How did you know my name was Eric?
C: No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut.
S: What?
C: He is...an...halibut.
S: You've got a pet halibut?
C: Yes. I chose him out of thousands. I didn't like the others, they were all too flat.
S: You must be a looney.
C: I am not a looney! Why should I be attired with the epithet looney merely because I have a pet halibut? I've heard tell that Sir Gerald Nabardo has a pet prawn called Simon (you wouldn't call him a looney); furthermore, Dawn Pailthorpe, the lady show-jumper, had a clam, called Stafford, after the late Chancellor, Allan Bullock has two pikes, both called Chris, and Marcel Proust had an haddock! So, if you're calling the author of 'A la recherche du temps perdu' a looney, I shall have to ask you to step outside!
S: Alright, alright, alright. A license.
C: Yes.
S: For a fish.
C: Yes.
S: You are a looney.
C: Look, it's a bleeding pet, isn't it? I've got a license for me pet dog Eric, and I've got a license for me pet cat Eric...
S: You don't need a license for your cat.
C: I bleeding well do and I got one. Can't be caught out there--
S: There's no such thing as a bloody cat license.
C: Yes there is!
S: Isn't!
C: Is!
S: Isn't!
C: I bleeding got one, look! What's that then?
S: This is a dog license with the word 'dog' crossed out and 'cat' written in in crayon.
C: The man didn't have the right form.
S: What man?
C: The man from the cat detector van.
S: The looney detector van, you mean.
C: Look, it's people like you what cause unrest.
S: What cat detector van?
C: The cat detector van from the Ministry of Housinge.
S: Housinge?
C: It was spelt like that on the van (I'm very observant!). I never seen so many bleeding aerials. The man said that their equipment could pinpoint a purr at four hundred yards! And Eric, being such a happy cat, was a piece of cake.
S: How much did you pay for this?
C: Sixty quid, and eight for the fruit-bat.
S: What fruit-bat?
C: Eric the fruit-bat.
S: Are all your pets called Eric?
C: There's nothing so odd about that: Kemal Ataturk had an entire menagerie called Abdul!
S: No he didn't!
C: Did!
S: Didn't!
C: Did, did, did, did, did and did!
S: Oh, all right.
C: Spoken like a gentleman, sir. Now, are you going to give me a fish license?
S: I promise you that there is no such thing: you don't need one.
C: In that case, give me a bee license.
S: A license for your pet bee?
C: Yes.
S: Called Eric? Eric the Bee?
C: No.
S: No?
C: No, Eric the Half-Bee. He had an accident.
S: You're off your chump.
C: Look, if you intend by that utilization of an obscure colloquiallism to imply that my sanity is not up to scratch, or indeed to deny the semi-existence of my little chum Eric the Half-Bee, I shall have to ask you to listen to this! Take it away, Eric the orchestra leader!.......

A one... two.... A one.. two.. three..four...

[piano intro]

Half a bee, philosophically, must, ipso facto, half not be.
But half the bee
has got to be,
vis a vis
its entity - do you see?

But can a bee
be said to be
or not to be
an entire bee
when half the bee
is not a bee
due to some ancient injury?

Singing...

La dee dee, 1 2 3,
Eric the half a bee.
A B C D E F G,
Eric the half a bee.

Is this retched demi-bee,
half asleep upon my knee,
some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric the half a bee.

Fiddle dee dum,
Fiddle dee dee,
Eric the half bee.

Tee hee hee,
Eric the half a bee.

I love this hive employee-ee-ee
bisected accidentally
one summer afternoon by me
I love him carnally.

He loves him carnally...
...semi-carnally

The end

16 posted on 12/07/2005 6:09:53 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: xzins
How do you defeat low overseas wages? Radical new products that cause the competitor's training and wage advantage to become obsolete.

And I think it's coming in the form of nanotechnology. I think nanotech manufacturing will change the US as much as industrialization did. However, we are currently in a very dangeous position right now. Our industrial base is not even a shadow of what it once was (although it's a bit better now than it was ten years ago) and if we get into a situation (ie, a bad war) where we need that industry it's going to hurt. Hopefully, the new innovations you speak of will happen before we get into that position.
17 posted on 12/07/2005 6:17:26 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: TXBSAFH

Yeah, but maybe we want good jobs. Walmart door greeters do not get paid well.
Free traitors are killing the middle class.


18 posted on 12/07/2005 6:20:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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So. Just because I do not nor will ever support free traitors does not make me a dem. And as far a he goes even a blind retarded squirrel will find a nut sometimes.

PS. Nice Strawman. Will you ever discuss this issues or just continue to name call like a spoiled 8 year old?


19 posted on 12/07/2005 6:26:44 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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I suppose that will depend on whether you provide anything other than hysterics, as I demonstrated above.


20 posted on 12/07/2005 6:29:01 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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