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To: cornelis
[ And yet the Other which he is, is shrouded in darkness; and it is in this crucifixion of himself that Modern Man has come to see, without knowing that he sees, the hidden irony of the Cross. ]

Quite deep Cornelis.. almost hynotizing.. Quite beyond me to grasp it all.. But what you you think about this snippet.?.. Can you simplify it for me.?.. Like brandy I can only take a little.. Little is good, more is too much..

840 posted on 12/10/2005 9:46:10 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

The Cross is Plato's twice divided line, among other things in geometry. We are in big trouble when we begin to critique our metaphors.


841 posted on 12/10/2005 9:48:40 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: hosepipe
I wouldn't be simplifying since the statement, like all good poetry, is already something complex simplified. I think that you want me to go the other way, back to the data that is concentrated in the thought.

And if I try, I would begin with the phrase "A is A," because that is somewhat familiar and what many like to return to, here.

The A-is-A phrase is an epistemological shorthand describing our human method of individuating. It describes human analysis. It is a circumscription so that we don't talk about everything at once. (Funny thing, it's used as a chant and an excuse to talk about everything at once.)

Why is this phrase so important? Because in our attempt to understand human life, we are in the habit of saying we've said it all when we merely have defined one aspect of human life. We mistake A for non-A, because we took A to be bigger than it was. Consider all the -isms. Each one of them are a diseased infatuation with a particular aspect of reality, turning a particular into a totality. The lawyer thinks all the world's a court. The psychologist thinks all the world's a couch.

The point is, human life always involves something else to which it belongs to. It's A is somehow connected to non-A. We are not symmetrical totalities by ourselves. And once we realize this, we reach a crossroads: we are what we are not and that is something darkling . . . and complex. Dogma and simplicity then become the temptation and substitutes (the second realities) to protect from complexity.

That's a start, hosepipe, and I hope it helps. It can be said in other ways and will be.

849 posted on 12/10/2005 10:41:22 AM PST by cornelis
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