Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense, is supporting McCain’s legislation. Murtha could prove a powerful ally when House and Senate negotiators meet to reconcile differences in their bills."
http://www.bgnews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/05/4344a90d3e862
They want the Marxist media to like them.
Amazing, only the enemies in Congress have a spine
HERE IS THE TEXT of the Senate Amendment, giving full US Constitutional protection to terrorists, even those captured outside the US, and making UN laws into US laws, so our soldiers can be prosecuted by the US.
Note the very ambiguous "degrading" treatment wording.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r109:1:./temp/~r109aMbvxG:e911694:
(a) In General.--No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the
[Page: S10909] United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.
(b) Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to impose any geographical limitation on the applicability of the prohibition against cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment under this section.
(c) Limitation on Supersedure.--The provisions of this section shall not be superseded, except by a provision of law enacted after the date of the enactment of this Act which specifically repeals, modifies, or supersedes the provisions of this section.
(d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment Defined.--In this section, the term ``cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984.
Collective insanity and a wish to be French...or dead.
When it was voted on in the Senate the only NAYS were as follows:
NAYs ---9
Allard (R-CO)
Bond (R-MO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)
The USA does not torture, period. These morons need to confirm judges, cut the budget and quit this jerking around. If they were my employees I'd fire them!
If they leave this in the bill I hope the President vetos it. (please no veto comments - I've heard them all)
Unfortunately, the White House has never been able to even find a veto pen.
Republicans are so funny. And so phony.
This is such a moot point b/c when the CIA really wants intel out of people, they don't use torture, they use NLP (google it). Advanced form of hypnosis, zero torture necessary.
This is standard stuff for FBI agents during interrogations, it was developed by the CIA during the Cold War.
They are spineless, gutless cowards, hell bent on destroying this country and turning it over to the unelected selected elitist communists in the UN.
Heaven forbid the troops fighting for this country use bullets.
Idiots all. Bush had better veto this.
WHAT? No torture in the Senate?
Does that mean they'll ban 6-hour speeches on the Senate floor?
I'm seeing very little reason to keep them around at this point. The WOT was their distinction from the Democrats, that distinction is blurred now.
The best way to get around this, if the bill becomes law, is to not take any more prisoners.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")