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To: Petronski
The S&P represents the price of those 500 stocks, but doesn't include dividends.

The price of gold represents, well, the price of gold, but doesn't include dividends.

It's a valid comparison.

When you start comparing gold to stocks, you have to include TOTAL return of both, or it's just another shabby goldshill halftruth.

We were comparing price level returns.... apples to apples. Including dividends for a TOTAL return makes it apples to oranges. Comparing Gold stock TOTAL returns to S&P 500 TOTAL returns makes it oranges to oranges.

The best part is even with dividends re-invested for the S&P 500, Gold has still outperformed the S&P 500 TOTAL return the past 5 years. That is the full, not gold shill, but investor truth.

109 posted on 12/07/2005 8:51:05 AM PST by simon says what
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To: simon says what
We were comparing price level returns...

A clever comparison for you to make, since it leaves out dividends. LOL

The best part is even with dividends re-invested for the S&P 500, Gold has still outperformed the S&P 500 TOTAL return the past 5 years. That is the full, not gold shill, but investor truth.

Run that comparison from 1980 or 1982.

Five years is not just a random number in this case, it's also a best-case scenario. Run it from 10 or 20 years.,P>Like I said, goldshillery, pure and simple.

110 posted on 12/07/2005 8:54:11 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: simon says what; Toddsterpatriot; martin_fierro
Comparing Gold stock TOTAL returns to S&P 500 TOTAL returns makes it oranges to oranges.

Define gold stock. And show the historical correlation between the price of gold and the price of gold stocks.

While you're at it, show the correlation between gold dividends and gold stock dividends--oops, can't do it, you don't collect benefits from your big-ass chunk of gold.

112 posted on 12/07/2005 8:57:07 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: simon says what
The best part is even with dividends re-invested for the S&P 500, Gold has still outperformed the S&P 500 TOTAL return the past 5 years.

Wow!! Over the last 5 years! Well, that says it all. What about 10 years? 20 years? 30 years? And what dividend did gold pay again?

120 posted on 12/07/2005 9:18:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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