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What do Rising Gold Prices Mean?
http://www.house.gov/paul/\ ^ | 12/05/05 | Rep. Ron Paul

Posted on 12/06/2005 11:25:43 PM PST by Capitalism2003

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To: nopardons
I agree. The increase in gold is nothing but a momentum move and is being fed by speculators driving the market up. What will happen here is what always happens. T he novices who believe there is no ceiling will pour their money in and the pros will sit back and when the time is right will begin selling into the fever. When they have taken their profits the short sellers come in, spread a rumor or two and once the price breaks lower the newbies will panic and a blood bath will ensue.

I predict gold at between $275-325 oz. within 1 year
81 posted on 12/07/2005 6:42:45 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Capitalism2003
What do Rising Gold Prices Mean?

TEOTWAWKI

82 posted on 12/07/2005 6:42:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Lying About My Sign-Up Date Since 1998)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Prices are rising - because of competition. Simple as that.

The current price spike is because the Russian government recently announced that it will be stockpiling its country's gold production for the next three years. The dollar's been strengthening for a year, but gold (and oil) got to its lofty level because of GWB's attempt to get something for nothing (weak dollar policy).

83 posted on 12/07/2005 6:46:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Lazamataz

But I feel fine...


84 posted on 12/07/2005 6:53:51 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Petronski
Most of the S&P stocks pay a dividend much of the the time. What kind of dividends does gold pay?

We were comparing price performance. If you would like to compare Apples to Apples I will gladly compare Gold Stock performance to S&P 500 stock performance to include dividends. Some of the Gold stocks themselves have dividends. The dividend yield on the S&P 500 is 1.7%. This yield is closer to historical lows than historical highs for dividend yield and is another item pointing to the S&P 500 being over valued.

Apples to Apples - GOLD Index HUI to Large Cap Index S&P 500 Gold Stocks have outperformed the S&P 500 by 67%. The S&P 500 has been heading up for almost 3 years now and still underperformed gold stocks by 67%. This does not include dividends from either index but a 1.7% yield doesn't make up much ground.

HUI Gold Stock Index = Green         S&P 500 Index = Blue

85 posted on 12/07/2005 7:09:07 AM PST by simon says what
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To: sergeantdave
If you had bought gold at its low in the 1990s, you'd have doubled your money. If you bought a basket of Nazdog stocks at the same time, you'd still be out money.

I think your charts are upside down. The Nasdaq was around 350 in early 1990's, it's up 700+% since then. As for individual stocks, I remember that well. I went long Dell in 1993 at a split adjust 33 cents. It's now 31. Microsoft and Intel and Cisco were the only other big Nas stocks people bought back then. Each have split 8 times.

86 posted on 12/07/2005 7:26:21 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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To: T. Jefferson
sergeantdave: If you had bought gold at its low in the 1990s, you'd have doubled your money.

T. Jefferson: I think your charts are upside down.

Gold's low was in 1999. It has outperformed the Nasdaq by 73% since then... sergeantdave's post was accurate.

Gold = Green         NASDAQ = Blue

87 posted on 12/07/2005 7:36:37 AM PST by simon says what
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To: Capitalism2003
What do Rising Gold Prices Mean?

It means that gold is getting more expensive.

88 posted on 12/07/2005 7:48:55 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: simon says what

Investing in gold stocks is not investing in gold, is it?

Does an investment in gold pay a dividend?


89 posted on 12/07/2005 8:07:07 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: nopardons

I never said Ron Paul was my "hero", but he is correct about fiat currencies and gold's relationship to them.

Laugh all you like, but God help anyone to whom you give financial or economic advice.


90 posted on 12/07/2005 8:13:28 AM PST by Roberts
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

True, the government has more assets, but the amount of the government's liabilities is staggering.


91 posted on 12/07/2005 8:14:49 AM PST by Roberts
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To: dennisw

Thanks for the book rec. I'll check it out.


92 posted on 12/07/2005 8:16:00 AM PST by Roberts
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To: simon says what

His post was comparing the 1990's low of gold vs. Nasdaq to today. Nas is up 700 percent vs. 200 percent for gold. Your chart starts at 1999.


93 posted on 12/07/2005 8:17:06 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

.....Prices are rising - because of competition. Simple as that.....

You are correct. Beyond our borders is a big world. To internalize the price of gold is naive.


94 posted on 12/07/2005 8:22:25 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: durasell

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95 posted on 12/07/2005 8:28:23 AM PST by tertiary01
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To: dennisw

You left out the part about the trashing of Paris by rioting mobs.

The destruction of a major European capital is worthy of note to those who worry about the future.


96 posted on 12/07/2005 8:28:48 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: T. Jefferson
His post was comparing the 1990's low of gold vs. Nasdaq to today. Nas is up 700 percent vs. 200 percent for gold. Your chart starts at 1999.

When was the low in Gold? 1999!

Since the low in Gold in 1999 it has outperformed the Nas by 73%.

97 posted on 12/07/2005 8:31:52 AM PST by simon says what
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To: Capitalism2003

It means the Russians aren't selling into rising markets for a change.


98 posted on 12/07/2005 8:34:01 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Roberts

And only idiots with zip for brains are pooh-poohing this article as well as rendering the Founder's visions as folly.

I think they already knew the propensity of Govt's to play games with currencies to their own advantage,

Gold back currency denies them this trick.

It's why a whopper, fries and a coke no longer can be bought for less than a dollar.

Ron Paul is a TRUE patriot in the mold of the Founders. One of the few who would like a return to a pre-FDR constitution since corrupted by socialists.


99 posted on 12/07/2005 8:34:20 AM PST by Marxbites
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To: Petronski

Gold is a commodity, it does not pay dividends. The S&P 500 is a stock index, it does not pay dividends either.


100 posted on 12/07/2005 8:36:36 AM PST by simon says what
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