[Vivaldi's Manifesto]

"Cool. Maybe the professional beach bums will have to go get a real job."

You have obviously never spent one second with a shaper or a glasser. They are true artisans who put in harsh hours surrounded by incredibly unhealthy materials. Think of a sculptor working in a coal mine and you will be close to understanding what these "bums" do day in and day out.

[clee1]

I wasn't talking about the makers... I was talking about the end-users.