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1 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:12 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Mandatory GPS isn't a failure of technology, it's a failure of government.


2 posted on 12/06/2005 10:25:29 PM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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BTTT


3 posted on 12/06/2005 10:26:45 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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inclusion of Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking devices in our cars. As I explain in that blog, I was even more horrified to learn about how the Feds have discussed how, if the devices fall out of touch with the GPS network, that our cars can automatically be disabled.

Instructions on how to disable or destroy the GPS on a vehicle without disabling the vehicle would be on the Internet before the first one is rolling off the assembly line.

Information wants to be free.

4 posted on 12/06/2005 10:27:47 PM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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Where do they find such crazy guys named "Fed"?


5 posted on 12/06/2005 10:29:53 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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I was even more horrified to learn about how the Feds have discussed how, if the devices fall out of touch with the GPS network, that our cars can automatically be disabled.

All that would take is driving through a tunnel or into a parking garage. The GPS navigation system in recent Lincoln Navigators has a backup inertial guidence system that can continue giving position updates when the car is driven into places like that where the satellites can't be seen.

6 posted on 12/06/2005 10:30:13 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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excellent


7 posted on 12/06/2005 10:31:02 PM PST by samtheman
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In the Dallas, Texas area the "Toll Tags" are indeed tied to a particular auto as I discovered when I got given new plates. I totally forgot to update my account and was rudely reminded by getting a ticket because my tag no longer matched my (new) plates. The ticket showed a very clear photo taken as I passed thru' the booth ! I pleaded ignorance in an email and they dropped the penalty $$.


8 posted on 12/06/2005 10:36:07 PM PST by 1066AD
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Mrs. Fierro's getting something like this for Christmas (don't tell her, now) -- we'll see how it works out.

10 posted on 12/06/2005 10:37:12 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Earlier today, I was horrified to learn that the Feds have considered manadating the inclusion of Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking devices in our cars.

While it makes a nice entry into a long rant, its an urban legend, and there is no federal plan to put gps tracking into cars.

Some rental car companies do this in areas where car theft is high, but even these do not disable the car, simply result in a large bill if you violate the area rules.

Further, gps units do not track cars, they are a receive only device, and would have to be ganged with a transmitter to some receiver somewhere, which would simply not be able to handle the load. (The hidden truth is that things like On-Star do not scale well, and if even a quarter of US cars were equipped with on-star the system would be unusable.

Relax, people, its a myth.

11 posted on 12/06/2005 10:38:03 PM PST by adamsjas
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The bottom line is that it's not just the fallibilty of the technology that's the problem. It's the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent when the technology fails and the wasteful if not unconstitutional process that follows. What's even worse is that the technology actually exists to mitigate that assumption and how no one is bothering to use it.

This paragraph errs in that the author considers it a failure of technology - it is NOT. These failures have been carefully considered and the corrections thereto have been rejected, because the gooberment's purpose here is to generate revenue, and statistics bear out the fact that most people will pay the ticket; not fight it.

14 posted on 12/06/2005 11:09:13 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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The tunnels will be packed...

My cell phone company has been trying to sell me on upgrading from my old 3 watt analog phone to one with GPS. Problem is, the digital model will not reach from where I work to the nearest tower without shelling out about $350 for amplifier, directional antenna, cable, etc. I already get out just fine with the bag phone and similar equipment.

The nitwit salesperson said "But it has GPS, it will tell us where you are if there is an emergency."

Yeah, right. How isit going to do that if I am in my vehicle in the 'dead zone' between amplified directional signal transmission and being able to hit a tower otherwise?

As for lost, there are not so many roads out there that I done't know where I am, and failing that, a Garmin can be had for $129.00

Big brother hasn't really started watching yet.

18 posted on 12/07/2005 1:48:03 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Technology BUMP!


24 posted on 12/07/2005 4:37:30 AM PST by upchuck (Mark Steyn: "...Democratic Party are a bunch of losers because they're all tactics and no strategy.")
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This suggestion from the party of smaller government?

heh heh heh, we've been had.


25 posted on 12/07/2005 4:46:59 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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If some idiot in Washington says that I have to put a GPS in my car, then I do my darnedest to mess with it.

No one needs to be able to find me or my car 24/7.
26 posted on 12/07/2005 5:10:24 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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...In Massachusetts where I live,...

That's your first mistake.
Everything that happens to you after that is your own fault.


No way will I get a gps in my vehicles.

I'll set sail first. As we sink further into a third world police state, the real third world looks better all the time.


30 posted on 12/07/2005 7:18:35 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( Tranzis.)
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I enjoyed life more when we used to ride dirt bikes on the street and no one really cared.


34 posted on 12/07/2005 9:39:10 AM PST by steve86 (@)
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Interesting article -- does anyone know if you carry a cell phone around, can it be tracked even if it's turned off?

Carolyn

35 posted on 12/07/2005 9:40:30 AM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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Fearful of getting a traffic ticket for some ridiculous amount of money, I stopped and waited. I knew the blare of horn honking going on behind me (other FastLane holders have no patience for a stopped car in the FastLane, nor should they)

People that stop in the FastLane should be shot and then drawn and quartered.

And if it's not a ticketable offense, it should be just for the shear stupidity of doing it.

40 posted on 12/08/2005 8:07:24 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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Makes me miss my old '72 Torino. I'd like to see someone keep me from ripping it out of that. That thing had $15 worth of electronics and could run on anything. One thing's for sure. I'm NEVER getting rid of my '87 T-Bird. It wouldn't take much at all to convert it to carburetor and tear out the computer.

The second this happens it's time to start a web page listing everyone who will be running against their local politicians.


42 posted on 12/25/2005 11:36:16 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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Mandatory GPS in all cars : I wonder if the government will force all cars which cannot be retrofitted with GPS to be turned in to them with a 90 day grace period, and if you turn it in within that grace period you get a huge discount on a new GPS-enabled car...of course those who refuse to turn their cars in will have their cars seized without warning.

You know, I kind of remember hearing a story on the Alex Jones Show where some county government somewhere in America was going to start refusing to grant license plates to all cars 15 years or older. Wouldn't surprise me if the government forces all non-GPS cars to be turned in...wouldn't surprise me either if the government forces all analog TVs and all analog radios to be turned in either when HDTV and HD-radio are in full-swing.


43 posted on 04/19/2006 12:16:50 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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