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Britain grapples with gruesome "honor" crimes
Reuters ^ | Dec. 6, 2005 | Gideon Long

Posted on 12/06/2005 8:31:22 PM PST by Alouette

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To: tonycavanagh

It's a start. The women's refuge centers around here tend to be run and staffed by Christian types or just concerned women who are not feminists.


41 posted on 12/07/2005 8:50:37 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: tonycavanagh
re :What the hell kind of society sits around wringing hands when young women are strangled to death for choosing the wrong male companion.

The answer to your question is every time a honor killing case is discovered, it is throughly investigated and those found guilty imprisoned and not once has any defense ever been put forward or accepted that it is allowed because it is a traditional custom.


Thanks for clarifying THAT... I was just blown away by the concept of "grappling" with something that is so obviously wrong.
42 posted on 12/07/2005 8:51:37 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: redpoll
Thats ok, its a newspaper headline, and we all know about them.

LOL as the media joke is Headline PM caught wearing womens clothes, the article is about Margaret Thatcher.

43 posted on 12/07/2005 8:57:11 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

That "Chap" is one of the most insightful writers on social matters in the West. Read "Life at the Bottom" and you will find chapter after chapter that shows the collapse of English policing and law. Subjects ( not citizens) are advised to hide in a room and call the police on cell phone if their home is invaded. They are prosecuted for attempting to defend their homes or property. They are warned about "excessive force" ie using a bat to defend themselves against a knife wielding home invader.

No one is asking you to wear sack cloth and ashes. But try pulling your head out of the sand.


44 posted on 12/07/2005 9:04:42 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak
My head has never been in the Sand.

I have lived in some of the toughest parts of England and I know what reality is like at the bottom instead of sitting in some comfy armchair writing and whining about life I lived it.

Cant stand any armchair types, military sociologists left and right.

IF i was bothered I could also get another professor who would have a ton of papers talking about what a fascist state my country is.

LOL to me these pundits both on the right and left need to get outside there comfy little libraries and experience real life.

45 posted on 12/07/2005 9:14:07 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

NOW, NARAL, women's rights groups in America... they hate Bush way more than they care about women

Just like the UN. Totally unconcerned about slavery in Africa today, in 2006. Much more willing to bitch and moan about slavery in America in 1859.


46 posted on 12/07/2005 9:17:47 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Thats America, one thing I have noticed about America is that there is a stronger deviding line between the Right and left.
47 posted on 12/07/2005 9:21:01 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

I'm speaking of America. If you say it's different in Britain, I'll take your word for it. For now. But I'm skeptical. Left is left and knows no borders. And the left hates capitilism and the western world far far more than they hate slave-holders and abusers of women (if they even hate them at all, which is questionable).


48 posted on 12/07/2005 9:23:45 AM PST by samtheman
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To: tonycavanagh

That pundit has a lifetime of experience of dealing with societies dysfunctions. Upfront and personal, not academic crap, but daily interaction with the poor, the crazy the violent, and those they impact. Just a suggestion but go to City Journal and read a few of his columns. You might find yourself enlightened.


49 posted on 12/07/2005 11:18:37 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: tonycavanagh

The UK has no death penalty and I've read about terrorist killers getting 10 year sentences. I was just wondering


50 posted on 12/07/2005 9:53:08 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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re :That pundit has a lifetime of experience of dealing with societies dysfunctions.

All societies have had dysfunctional, I dont need to read about them I grew up in a dysfunctional neighborhood, over 40 years ago.

Spent half my military life patrolling those neighborhoods in North Ireland, Africa , Balkans and Iraq, I know real bad when I see it, usually it from round a corner as its taking pot shots at me

There has never been a time when society has not had a criminal element and never been a time when someone hasn't said it was better in my day.

LOL.

I still stand by my original point any one responsible for a honor killing will investigated and stand trial for premeditated murder.

51 posted on 12/08/2005 2:51:12 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: GeronL
re :The UK has no death penalty and I've read about terrorist killers getting 10 year sentences. I was just wondering.

Off the subject of this thread but will deal with it.

Yes you are correct we don't have a death penalty.

Ok which terrorist killers were these can I have the story names of those involved the terrorist activity they were caught carrying out, or were sentenced for and the terrorist group they belong to.

52 posted on 12/08/2005 2:56:12 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Alouette

,,, Enoch had a window on all this but Britain didn't want to know.

53 posted on 12/08/2005 2:56:36 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: samtheman
re :Left is left and knows no borders. And the left hates capitilism and the western world far far more than they hate slave-holders and abusers of women .

And where does Tony Blair fit into this.

As an American you have an American perspective.

LOL as a avid Internet surfer I understand that from American web sites of all political hues.

54 posted on 12/08/2005 2:59:46 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: samtheman
re :Left is left and knows no borders. And the left hates capitilism and the western world far far more than they hate slave-holders and abusers of women .

And where does Tony Blair fit into this.

As an American you have an American perspective.

LOL as a avid Internet surfer I understand that from American web sites of all political hues.

55 posted on 12/08/2005 2:59:47 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

Where does Tony Blair fit in to what? Are you changing the subject?


56 posted on 12/08/2005 3:57:56 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
you said Left is left and knows no borders. And the left hates capitalism and the western world far far more than they hate slave-holders and abusers of women .

Well Tony Blair is seen as left in Britain, i.e central left rather than middle or hard left.

In Britain apart from a few subjects most of those who call them self's left or right do not neatly fit into neat boxes.

So you may get a Conservative who is anti the war in Iraq and a Labour supporter who supports the war.

That is my point

57 posted on 12/08/2005 5:28:40 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

I didn't mean the UK where got the low sentences, that was elsewhere in Europe. Sometimes I get ahead of myself.


58 posted on 12/08/2005 11:08:46 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Alouette
Britain grapples with gruesome "honor" crimes

Why do I think there would be a lot less "grappling" if the perpetrators were Christians(?)

59 posted on 12/21/2005 7:52:08 PM PST by The Duke
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