Posted on 12/06/2005 8:23:41 PM PST by MissouriConservative
"I think the best thing the government could do is require universal transfer and standardization of credits for all colleges small and large that receive federal funds."
No. I am a conservative. The less the government messes with higher education, the better. There are all sorts of colleges and universities operating at all levels of difficulty and expense.
My daughter is a senior at Rice University. She is majoring in Chemical Engineering. Rice is a good school and she is getting a good education. Rice has also been very good in providing aids and loans so that it has not been too hard for us to pay for her education.
She already has a job offer in hand. The offer includes a handsome signing bonus. She will be able to pay off all her loans in her first year of employment and after that it is all gravy.
Here's more reporting that I found very helpful and interesting
http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubArticleDC.jsp?id=1133863507954
http://betsyspage.blogspot.com/2005/12/initial-reaction-seems-to-indicate.html
John Roberts is fantastic!
Yeah but most of it probably went to help fund the college Presidents Salaries.
Actually, it goes to the heart of the "1st Amendment" claim of the universities. O'Connor's statement shows that the univeristy has options available to it (citing one particular example) that don't require banning recruiters outright, therefore there is no compelling reason, even if the university's argument is accepted, to overturn the law.
Typical of "tolerant" liberal Souter: turning free speech rights on its head. The schools can say whatever they want, anytime they want. What the schools want to do, however, is take away the ability for and/or refuse access to individuals and entities, as well as their own students, to "speak" out on issues about which the school liberals don't agree.
Congratulations on your Masters. I think for some careers college is the only option but I also know that for considerably less a person can get certified in a specialized IT technology and be making 6 figures in less than 2 years. I can't imagine the shock (though it shouldn't be) for a liberal arts major when they get out of school and realize they aren't going to be making the big bucks basket weaving.
Well they are already messing with it and they are unlikely to quit messing with it. I'm glad things have worked out for your daughter you should be proud. I believe that when the government provides tax money to institutions of higher education they should attach certain strings. One of the most frustrating things is to spend what is thought to be huge amounts of money to find that only a fraction of your credits transfer.
Thanks! I'll certainly take a look.
"...the law school must abandon its commitment to fight discrimination,..."
So let me get this straight here ...
If I don't get high scores on my SAT or meet academic prerequisites for admission into said law school, and I don't have the several hundred thousand bux for tuition, then they are going to DISCRIMINATE against me and not let me study there at my leisure and award me a degree / licence in due course (whether I deserve one or not)?
And they are going to DISCRIMINATE against military Recruiters who only want to save their sorry snotty liberal elite heiniez from Islammofacist extermination by not letting them set foot on their sacred campi?
All the while having their sanctamonious bloomers in a twist because the US Military is a little hesitant to allow the militant, communist wing of the homosexual lobby to infiltrate and take over our Nations' defence (as they apparantly have American academia)?
And these are the same elitist endoctrination centers that are churning out the majority of our politicians and judges??!
God help us!... Quick; before He is ruled unconstitutional and run out of town along with the homophobic Recruiting Sergeant!
:-) You are most welcome.
If Scalia is anything like Roberts, Sociocrat and RINO Senators are going to start wearing AlQuida bomb-vests to the Chamber when he comes up for nomination.
Of course "Teddy" may not need one; all he has to do is cut a rank one and light it off behind the podium.
Famous last words from the Senior Balloon from Maaahsachuusetts;
"AaaahLAAAaaaaah - AAAAAhhchbaaaaaah!!!"
(**PPPPPFFFXFPTZZZPX** - *flickabic* - ****FA-BLOOIE!!!****)
Oy; it won't be pretty! {B^{P~
Seriesly tho; "Frantic desperation" on the left may be an understatement.
The true irony here is that colleges practice discrimination on a daily basis. There are quotas for admission, classes centered on certain ethnic groups, and groups and clubs by the hundreds dedicated to everyone and everything but the evil white guys or conservative.
Thank you. My ultimate goal is to teach, to pass on the knowledge to the next generations. You are correct to about the 6 figures in the IT field, although those positions are increasingly going the way of the dodo. Companies are using visas to bring in IT educated immigrants to lower costs. Those positions that are out there are ones that are calling for decades of experience and most have a list of obscure or out of date technologies that you must know.
It's a jungle out there....lol
It is all about where you want to go and what you are willing to do to get and keep the jobs that are available. The company I work for employs some "IT educated immigrants" but they only represent a small fraction of the total workforce and those I've worked with have a work ethic that is hard to beat.
The key thing to remember is that one has to be willing to grow and move on to make more money in IT. If one stays on at a help desk for years on end and have no intention to push upward into management then its hard to blame guys from India for low wages. I started as an unpaid intern working a pizza job and going to school with a new baby daughter. When others went home and gave up on problems, I stayed and found the answers to them. It is not easy but it is a choice; complain and give up or do what you have to do.
I went to school with a guy, a good friend of mine, who was ex military, his wife was in jail for drug use, and he had walk across town sometimes to take his daughter to preschool just so he could go to school. He was a black single father who didn't have a car and little money and I never once heard him complain or bellyache, he did what he had to do and it was an honor to graduate with him.
Don't wait for someone to hand you the answer, go find it, don't wait for someone to give you what you want go get it.
...and this could be hugh! :)
But the problem is that there that was never the issue. They are arguing that free speech issue as a distraction. She was clearly fooled by it, as you are. Chief Justice Roberts was not. The question is solely whether Congress may fund education with strings attached, other Constitutional restrictions notwithstanding. This is long-settled law; it can.
"Actually, it goes to the heart of the "1st Amendment" claim of the universities. O'Connor's statement shows that the univeristy has options available to it (citing one particular example) that don't require banning recruiters outright, therefore there is no compelling reason, even if the university's argument is accepted, to overturn the law."
But the problem is that was never the issue. They are arguing that free speech issue as a distraction from the real issue. She was clearly fooled by it, as you are. Chief Justice Roberts was not. The question is solely whether Congress may fund education with strings attached, other Constitutional restrictions notwithstanding. This is long-settled law; it can.
How did this garbage ever get to the SC?
There is no Constitutional there there.
I'm not being fooled by anything. I know the 1st Amendment argument is specious. Nevertheless, it's still a relatively common practice to say something along the lines of: assuming everything the plaintiff says is true (and relevant), has the plaintiff shown that they have been or will be harmed. In this case, the answer is: no, even if we accept the specious arguments of the plaintiff, the remedy requested is not necessary.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.