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State trooper or panhandler? Drivers fooled (COP IN DISGUISE BUSTS NON-SEATBELT WEARERS)
The Seattle Times ^ | 12/6/05 | Jennifer Sullivan

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:30:15 PM PST by paulat

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To: Larry Lucido
I'm boycotting panhandlers and undercover cops who can't say "Merry Christmas."

...I didn't even catch that before I posted...a totally PC undercover cop!!!

...well...this is Seattle....

81 posted on 12/06/2005 10:39:17 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
"They also have a right to penalize people for ...not wearing a seat belt."

BS.

82 posted on 12/06/2005 10:44:08 PM PST by spunkets
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To: paulat
Hmm, they might want to rethink this, especially now that this has come out.

I wouldn't want to be the trooper standing on a street corner facing a car belonging to someone who got ticketed for this the day before - "accidents happen, you know."
83 posted on 12/06/2005 10:49:21 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: paulat

Think that's bad? I listened to a recent radio ad by the Salvation Army, about their kettle campaign. Numerous references to the "2005 Holiday Campaign." Not ONE mention of Christmas. And it's the Salvation Army!!! (Who I happen to like).


84 posted on 12/06/2005 10:49:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Boycott taglines that don't say Merry Christmas!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
"I think I'm the only one here who thinks this is ingenious and somewhat funny."

Ingenious and funny is when they mail all the wanted real criminals a notice that they won some big prize. They tell them to show up at the Hilton on a certain day and collect them all when they show up. They do show too!

This is about seatbelts and the death of Freedom.

85 posted on 12/06/2005 10:53:29 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Larry Lucido
I'm boycotting panhandlers and undercover cops who can't say "Merry Christmas."

Not everybody driving by is Christian. Are we completely ignoring our Jewish friends this year?

86 posted on 12/07/2005 7:02:02 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: spunkets
This is about seatbelts and the death of Freedom.

The article wasn't about the merits of the seatbelt law. It was about enforcement. That's what I was commenting on.

87 posted on 12/07/2005 7:07:43 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
" The article wasn't about the merits of the seatbelt law. It was about enforcement. on."

The article is about the seatbelt law. It's the justificaiton they use for their clever road agent tactic.

88 posted on 12/07/2005 11:35:49 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Have it your way.


89 posted on 12/07/2005 11:38:10 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: paulat
It's all about the revenue.

Here on the east side of the state, we have undercover pedestrians. I kid you not.

The Spokane PD use a combination of undercover officers, and a purposely entrapping law, to cite drivers for not yeilding to pedestrians.

The law states;'... motor vehicle operators must yield to pedestrians waiting at marked or un-marked crosswalks.' The plainclothes officer then stands in the middle of a block, and looks like he wants to cross the street. If you don't stop, he radios ahead to a uniformed officer to pull you over.

Now to be fair, I have seen them do this at a real honest-to-god crosswalk, but on the whole, it is as above.

So, you wanna tell me how to identify an 'un-marked' crosswalk? And better yet, how the h**l am I to determine the intent of someone standing on the side of the road?

It's revenue enhancement pure and simple.

90 posted on 12/07/2005 9:45:06 PM PST by IYellAtMyTV (The Left -- playing russian roulette with an automatic.)
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To: IYellAtMyTV

South Carolina just went from seatbelt laws being secondary to primary. Secondary meant they had to stop you for a different reason than not wearing your seat belt before they could cite you for not wearing it.

Now it is anything goes. Funny how we have child restraint laws for inside the cab of a vehicle, but you can stick ten kids in the back of an open pickup truck or put your eight year old on the back of a motorcycle.

I see a prgression here. Soon any type of activity that might be considered dangerous, that you can have health or life insurance for, will soon be illegal; motorcyling, riding in the back of a pickup truck, golfing, hiking, operating a motor vehicle, playing tennis, bungee jumping, all contact sports, walking, dog training (so dog ownership will have to be made illegal too!), sex and dating, eating fried foods, ad nauseum.

What happened to "...of the people, by the people"?

It's revenue, insurance companies, and liberal control freaks!


91 posted on 01/24/2006 5:26:39 PM PST by Quietus ("Of the people, by the people" No more!)
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To: paulat

I'd tell him to ef himself, 'I took off my seatbelt to get into my pockets to help him out'.
Any more lip and I'd tell him to shoot me or shut up, as I drove off.


92 posted on 01/24/2006 5:32:37 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: TChris

No law has ever been passed that a cop hasn't loved. It's what makes them tick.


93 posted on 01/24/2006 5:38:52 PM PST by wiley
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To: billbears
az, help me out here. Who was it again that suggested (practically required) the states to pass seat belt laws? What administration was that under? Didn't that person give us some other great laws? What's that person doing now? LOL!!

The ones who suggested it was the Insurers. They {in exchange for campaign funding} have lawmakers who serve the profit margin interest of the corporation over the rights and freedoms of American Citizens. Our Risk Underwriting Overlords now control through either national legislation, state laws & codes, local laws & codes, or by out and out blackmail every aspect of our private lives. This is not a party line issue as both sides are guilty. Neither party wants to make Big Donor mad at them.

94 posted on 01/24/2006 5:40:31 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Wolfie
"Hey, it beats fighting actual crime."

You bet!

They sure weren't interested in finding my car when it was stolen.

That sort of thing doesn't bring in the money and kudos from the traffic judges like busting those dangerous seat-belt violators does.

95 posted on 01/24/2006 6:01:26 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: cva66snipe
This is not a party line issue as both sides are guilty

It's a party issue as far as I'm concerned. This, among other 'safety' bills as it relates to traffic, was the advocated vehemently by one Elizabeth Dole. Airbags, seat belt laws, third brake lights, maintenance of 55 mph speed limits, and even an attempted push to make the drinking age even higher. Elizabeth Dole, Republican Senator from the state of North Carolina. A carpetbagger.

96 posted on 01/24/2006 6:02:06 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: paulat
I am sure feeling a lot safer tonight.

Get those criminals off the street!

97 posted on 01/24/2006 6:06:44 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: billbears
It's a party issue as far as I'm concerned. This, among other 'safety' bills as it relates to traffic, was the advocated vehemently by one Elizabeth Dole. Airbags, seat belt laws, third brake lights, maintenance of 55 mph speed limits, and even an attempted push to make the drinking age even higher. Elizabeth Dole, Republican Senator from the state of North Carolina. A carpetbagger.

I understand and you're right on that issue. But it started before that. Look at 75% of all laws and codes on all levels of government. Who's interest do they really serve? Most laws and even down to local codes written since the mid 1960's have been to the benefit of Big Money Insurance Companies.

It's not just car insurance look at health insurance. Name me any other business that has exclusive protected status in our nations courts more so then HMO's. And one of the biggest rackets is uninsured motorist. Corporate welfare so either way the insurers will be paid for every car on the road either by the owner or by the ones forced to take this insurance.

98 posted on 01/24/2006 6:18:14 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe

And I agree with that. Neither party is innocent on the issue.


99 posted on 01/24/2006 7:09:02 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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