"LOL! Yeah these guys just seemed dam set on not listening to a single point. However, you notice these clowns would never come to face to face Fair Tax debate. They are the same type of clowns that would defend a person caught in the act.... There is point... They are partisan hacks..."
i personally resent the implications made here. why is questioning the fairtax proposal not allowed? why do the attacks when discussion fairtax get personal and snide?
i seriously was/am on the fence. i'm leaning against it in part because very few here at fr can defend it without either going off on terminology tangents or making personal attacks.
i really don't understand that attitude towards something some important. agree to disagree and stop the name calling because you lose people who are on the sidelines watching the discussions. i say that from the perspective of one who used to only read the threads and not participate, from an outsider's perspective it is very easy to identify who is attacking and who is being attacked.
people can honestly hold different opinions -- and they can even view something as being deceptive, while it is not to someone else. that might indicate a problem with perception, or with presentation, or a real problem to the concept. but to argue againt an individual in such an offensive manner suggests an indefensible religion.
i started asking a few questions a while back and just by asking them i've been accused of opinions and ideologies that i've never personally heald... just looking for a rational discussion. not to be found here on fr, and not because of the ones questioning or being critical.
That is not directed toward you at all... I am talking about three other users on here. This is the only subject they disgust on Free Republic... None of this is geared toward you.... I have debating these three guys for about a year now. So no it was not directed toward you..
The ploy of "I'm really 'for/was really for/would be really for' the FairTax if it weren't for 'insults/unanswered questions/bad language/personal attacks'" has been tried many, many times by those seeking to defend the Status Quo and oppose the FairTax. One recent user of it was RobFromGA who assured everyone that he was really neutral and might very well be a FairTax supporter if he could get but 'just one more question' answered.
Turns out, of course, this was nothing but deviousness no his part and he was all along a supporter of the Status Quo (which he has now admitted). If you expect FairTax supporters to be taken in by this tired old trick you're losing your grip on reality.
And if you read that as some sort of personal attack, you're gravely mistaken.
i personally resent the implications made here.
The post was not to you nor was your name mentioned. That you chose to include yourself as one of "these guys just seemed dam set on not listening to a single point." is your perception of belonging in that group. I certainly don't include myself in that group.
because very few here at fr can defend it without either going off on terminology tangents
It appears you're projecting. How many posts did you go on about the terminology of the words "sales tax"? You questioned it; got a speedy answer yet you dwelled on and on about it.
BTW, I didn't see you acknowledge your errors in the tables you created in your 113 post? Which pigdog pointed out the errors in his 170 post and elaborated on further in 217.