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Scientists Unveil New Discoveries At Titanic wreck
BostonChannel ^ | 12/5/05

Posted on 12/05/2005 12:02:23 PM PST by ZGuy

The discovery of two large pieces of the Titanic's hull is changing the story of how the luxury ocean liner sank 93 years ago.

Undersea explorers said Monday that the Titanic broke into three pieces, not two pieces as commonly believed and portrayed in James Cameron's 1997 film version of the catastrophe. That means the ship likely sank faster than believed.

The hull pieces were found this summer by an expedition sponsored by the History Channel. Its leaders called it the most significant find at the site since undersea explorer Robert Ballard discovered the wreck 20 years ago and declared that the ship had broken in two.

"The breakup and sinking of the Titanic has never been accurately depicted," Parks Stephenson, a Titanic historian, said Monday at a conference at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, where scientists discussed the findings.

The 46,000-ton luxury liner was billed as "unsinkable" by its owner, the White Star Line. But it sank after striking an iceberg on April 14, 1912, on its maiden voyage across the Atlantic. About 1,500 people were killed.

Ballard discovered the bulk of the wreck in 1985 in 13,000 feet of water, about 380 miles southeast of Newfoundland. A portion of the ship's bottom was missing, and Ballard's team presumed it had fragmented into hundreds of small pieces.

The discovery of the two hull pieces about 500 meters from the rest of the wreck indicate that the piece came off the ship intact and later broke into two large sections, the explorers said.

"That's X marks the spot," said Richard Kohler, who led the expedition. "Right above that is where the Titanic broke."

Ballard did not immediately return a call for comment.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: nauticalarchaeology; robertballard; shipwreck; shipwrecks; titanic
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To: najida; camle

"A Night to Remember"

They only used that line because I let my copyright lapse.


41 posted on 12/05/2005 12:23:12 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Constitution Day

Sort of a long walk for a short drink of water wasn't it?


42 posted on 12/05/2005 12:23:43 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: ZGuy
Many of the survivors of the Titanic who were nearby when the ship went down described accurately how it appeared when it sank. These same people were consulted by the artist and approved the final rendition of the painting which shows the Titanic going down bow first with the stern high in the air. What happened with ship as it plunged 13,000 feet to the ocean bottom is open to speculation ... Ballard has his theory, which is essentially correct ... except for a smaller portion of the hull which broke off. The Titanic lies on the bottom of the Atlantic in two large pieces ... a smaller portion that broke away lies nearby.
What's the big f***ing deal?
43 posted on 12/05/2005 12:24:05 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: AndrewB
There's a movie about the Titanic?

Geez, I gotta get out more...

44 posted on 12/05/2005 12:24:58 PM PST by Taylor42
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To: Tijeras_Slim

sorry, i forgot that night...


45 posted on 12/05/2005 12:25:54 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle
***OOOFFFF!****

Limps away, holding self gingerly....

46 posted on 12/05/2005 12:27:03 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
This flip is still legit under this scenario. Indeed, it make the mechanical design failure only that much more egregious.

I wasn't aware that structural integrity while sinking was a design criterion. :)

47 posted on 12/05/2005 12:27:50 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Taylor42

Yes, and did you know that Kerry was in Vietnam?


48 posted on 12/05/2005 12:27:56 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: najida
Which was the Titanic with Clifton Webb and Robert Wagner? That one wasn't too bad, neither.
49 posted on 12/05/2005 12:28:15 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: camle

Ah, "A Night To Remember"! Now there's a movie.


50 posted on 12/05/2005 12:28:28 PM PST by MrLee
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To: Tijeras_Slim

heh heh - gotcha!;-)


51 posted on 12/05/2005 12:30:24 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle

Good and square! :)


52 posted on 12/05/2005 12:31:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Definitely.


53 posted on 12/05/2005 12:32:40 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: MrLee

and since it was all verified, it had the added benifit of being true - the heroism, the panic, the woman who refused to leave her busband - was all true, and not some made up fantasy.


54 posted on 12/05/2005 12:32:53 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

This Titanic was made in 1953.

A Night to Remember was made in 1958. Interesting, just 5 years between each version.

55 posted on 12/05/2005 12:32:54 PM PST by najida (People are often mirror images of the things they hate most.)
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To: najida

that first version was fiction, wasn't it?


56 posted on 12/05/2005 12:33:42 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle
"..... more lifeboats than mandated...." What they had was less than needed for the entire ship. I don't think the White Star Line had envisioned such a cataclysmic occurring. It would have been nice if the lifeboats they had were filled to capacity. Many many people survived the sinking of the Titanic but froze to death in the cold waters of the North Atlantic.
57 posted on 12/05/2005 12:34:28 PM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: The_Victor

LOL.

I can't exactly remember the controversy, but it had something to do with water coming up "over" the supposed water-tight hull dividers -- which did not go up to the deck, but only 3/4 of the way or somesuch.

I can't remember the details, but the way you got the tail-up flip was filling the forward compartments first, then one-by-one filling the next as the ship pointed down.

I think the issue was White Star contended that a flooded forward compartment (or two or three) would not give you enough "dip" to flood the next (and then the next, and next!).


58 posted on 12/05/2005 12:35:55 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: camle

I don't remember.

I think it was like all the other movies,
some fact and a lot of fiction.


59 posted on 12/05/2005 12:36:58 PM PST by najida (People are often mirror images of the things they hate most.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I've heard that the steel in the hull was made improperly, causing it to fracture in the cold water. There are numerous accounts of survivors hearing snapping and crackling sounds, which was the the steel fracturing.


60 posted on 12/05/2005 12:37:47 PM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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