Yes it is.
However, my first comment on this thread was directed at HamiltonJay in #17 when he wrote, "Better wake up to reality... it takes 2 incomes per household just to match in real dollars what 1 did 30 years ago".
In my first post, #87 I responded with: "That little factoid is difficult to hide".
My initial comment seemed to spark some comments, and disagreement, none of which addressed my initial comment.
That is why I asked you and several others:
"Do you believe that most middle class families today can make it on just one income, like they did 40 or so years ago?"
A few seem to be demanding government numbers or sources to back this up. There is simply no need to. Everyone knows all about this. It's no secret.
And that is why I said the other day, that I felt a few were being disingenuous here, by refusing to simple answer the question, and instead asked for government sources etc. I found that ridiculous.
That being said, I think the answer to that is as obvious as those dodging my initial exchange on this thread.
This horse is dead.
The source is the US Department of Labor.. everyone emphatically knows the truth, but for those who are adament about sourcing are welcome to go look it up. I've stated my source many times... but folks that don't want to face reality, just ignore facts.
Another fact the free traders don't want to face:
Manufacturing creates 3.8 or so jobs for ever manufacturing job.. that means a manufacturing plant that employs 5k directly actually creates nearly 20k total jobs. Service jobs only create 1.3 jobs for every direct hire.. or a service industry employing 5k, will create about 11.5k jobs total.
To CREATE wealth, you must CREATE.... free traders just ignore fundamentals. You don't create wealth by consumption.
If this were true real wages would be down 50% (2 new wages equals 1 old wage). I guess that sort of information probably wouldn't be collected by the government. LOL!
There is simply no need to. Everyone knows all about this.
I have no need to prove the Earth is flat, everyone knows that it is. LOL!
168 my first comment on this thread was ... "Do you believe that most middle class families today can make it on just one income, like they did 40 or so years ago?" A few seem to be demanding government numbers or sources to back this up. There is simply no need to. Everyone knows all about this. It's no secret.
Fine --you already know in your heart what incomes are so you have no need to actually find out what they are. Man, I wish my life could be that simple; but that still doesn't explain where the Australian in the article is talking about US wage levels. He wasn't. You're jumping threads when you come out with "I said the other day, that I felt a few were being disingenuous here, by refusing to simple answer the question..."
Let's all get back on topic and talk about these "astronomical" welfare taxes and not start going off to say, football, star trek, or anything else people want to wander off with.