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To: Proud_texan
Reagan didn't operate on that principal, he believed that Americans could be talked to, not insulted or talked down to.

But he didn't look to opinion polls to determine policy, which is what you're suggesting we do with science.

60 posted on 12/05/2005 6:39:47 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
I apologize for my tardy reply, work sometimes interjects itself...

If I created the impression that I was suggesting that science should be poll driven I made my argument poorly.

My intention was that the "public relations" of the situation isn't being handled well.

I work in a fairly technical area (not science) and I work with clients every day that don't have a clue. They're not stupid, they're not morons, they're ignorant of the issue surronding a reasonably technical area.

Not that I would even use the word ignorant, rather I try to explain, using situations that they can relate to their lives, the reasons why they're morons (there's a bit of an attempt at humor there). If I were to simply say "hey, you guys are morons" I suspect I'd be shown the door immediately and lose a client.

For instance as a non-scientists I have an idea of what the word "theory" means: "An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.". However the scientific definition of theory is, of course, quite different.

It's not the publics fault that they go with the one they're likley to understand from their non-scientific lives. They're not morons, they've simply not been exposed to the fact.

So the point I was trying to make, perhaps poorly, is that it is incumbent on science to educate, not simply call people morons. Present a cogent argument starting with the basics and continue from there.

It may not work, but I would observe that in the last 30 years science hasn't engaged in enough education. We see junk science used to advance an agenda and fairly or unfairly, it's a big brush that the public sees as tarring all science. We also see science that has become, at least in my view, timid in challenging junk science because of tenure, funding or even being outcasts in their peer group.

Rather than education it's been more of a case of "we're real smart, we're right, you don't agree, you're an idiot".

Simply a thought.

544 posted on 12/06/2005 3:13:07 AM PST by Proud_texan ("Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater)
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