[pby]

What is a "grant" and what is "support", if not funding?

Integrity...That BS detector is going off again (for some strange reason it goes off every time that you mention that word).

You could demonstrate some of that if you took back your claim that I was telling a lie.

[VadeRetro]

You said they fund ID. They don't. It's that simple. Admit it or be exposed as the lying sham you are.

[VadeRetro]

Interesting, too, that the answer to this

They also don't fund it. You said they did. They were interested once and called for papers. None came. Now they aren't much interested, as their guidelines for submissions make crystal clear.

is this.

What is a "grant" and what is "support", if not funding?

I mean, are we all supposed to be idiots not to see the tap dance?

And what about this?

“They never came in,” said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.

“From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don’t come out very well in our world of scientific review,” he said.

Does that look like "funding" or "not funding?"