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Intelligent design’s long march to nowhere
Science & Theology News ^ | 05 December 2005 | Karl Giberson

Posted on 12/05/2005 4:06:56 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: pby
What were Darwin's education and qualifications and did not he dictate the course of science?

That was not my quote however I will answer. Darwin was a Doctor engaged in the study and observation of plant and animal life. He chose a ships commission in order to enhance his travel and study. Although he is credited with a lot his ideas were not that new. Aristotle, the father of science speculated much of the same ideas centuries before the bible and its new ideas was written.
101 posted on 12/05/2005 7:31:23 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Clemenza

"IDers will go the way of ... Baseball Card Economists."

Just so I can understand the analogy, exactly what is a "Baseball Card Economist"?


102 posted on 12/05/2005 7:32:53 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Rudder
Exactly one-half of the population of America has an IQ of 100 or less.

It seems that somebody needs to be educated on the difference between a mean and a median. Perhaps you should stick to your area of specialization.

103 posted on 12/05/2005 7:34:06 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Exactly, or presidential candidate and early ID proponent William Jennings Bryan. Long and Bryan were hardly conservatives in the sense of a belief in limited government. They were "conservative" because they opposed modernity, Bryan advancing a pre-modern guild employment system that was not so different from Long's flirtation with fascism.


104 posted on 12/05/2005 7:37:17 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Senator Bedfellow
If only we weren't so thick-headed, we'd be able to see how 1 is equivalent to 2.6...

I suppose for sufficiently large values of 1 and sufficiently small values of 2.6...
105 posted on 12/05/2005 7:37:53 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Rudder
How did they do this? Was the same test used for all countries?

Yep, non biased based on mathematics.
106 posted on 12/05/2005 7:38:46 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Scientific American had a specuial supplement that discussed parallel universes. What I described was a Type I based on the classification scheme given. Type II was based on quantum mechanics. When a quantum 'event' become manifest, all probability outcomes become real, but our universe only follows one path of outcomes. I can't remember the Type III but I think it was based on Brane theory.


107 posted on 12/05/2005 7:40:11 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: jec41

Strange. I have graduate courses in testing and have never heard of an unbiased test.

Lots of people have tried to make unbiased, but it's pretty futile.


108 posted on 12/05/2005 7:41:27 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Sorry, since you divided by (a-b), this equality holds only if a <> b. So a and b both can't be 1.


109 posted on 12/05/2005 7:42:26 AM PST by oblomov
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To: AmishDude
Re: mean and median

see post 97.

110 posted on 12/05/2005 7:43:32 AM PST by Rudder
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To: oblomov
Sorry, since you divided by (a-b), this equality holds only if a <> b. So a and b both can't be 1.

I think he is aware of that. The proof in his post is a very famous one.

111 posted on 12/05/2005 7:44:11 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Rudder

You said "exactly". Don't use a single example to generalize to all results.


112 posted on 12/05/2005 7:46:05 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
If a probability is more than zero, it will probably happen given infinity.

More precisely, if the probability of an event is more than zero, it will occur with probability approaching one as the number of repeated trials increases without limit.

I'm familiar with the joke proof that 1 = 2, but thanks for the laugh.

113 posted on 12/05/2005 7:46:44 AM PST by TheGhostOfTomPaine
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To: All
if evolution is true and homosexuality is genetic - why are there still homosexuals? wouldn't this non reproductive gene have been eliminated from the gene pool at some point? when it comes to science, i'm one of those ignoramuses who believes that God created man in His own image and homosexuality is a choice that people make.
114 posted on 12/05/2005 7:50:51 AM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Rudder
Yeah...speciation in progress.

What it really means is that if your IQ is 135 or above and you have have a argument, debate, or discourse with someone with a IQ of a 100 or less you are wasting your time and their time. Neither will ever be able to accept the others position.
115 posted on 12/05/2005 7:50:56 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: js1138

And The John Templeton Foundation doesn't?


116 posted on 12/05/2005 7:51:18 AM PST by pby
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To: AmishDude

Delete exactly and insert hyperbole...'cause that's what I was doing.


117 posted on 12/05/2005 7:51:51 AM PST by Rudder
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To: jec41

Darwin was a doctor with a completed medical degree?


118 posted on 12/05/2005 7:52:37 AM PST by pby
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To: jec41
...you are wasting your time and their time. Neither will ever be able to accept the others position.

Or, Murphey's Law of Speciation No. 322: "Don't go to bed with someone dumber than yourself."

119 posted on 12/05/2005 7:54:30 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"Of course, if the French hadn't won at Hastings, we'd all be speaking English now."

No creo eso!
120 posted on 12/05/2005 7:54:32 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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