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When did 'Happy Holidays' become anti-Christian?
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
| December 4, 2005
| Mark Hare
Posted on 12/04/2005 5:24:15 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
The columnist argues that the "dreadful" Iraq war "diminishes the joy of the Christmas season," and that "talk-radio land and the Internet blogosphere," should stop complaining that "Have a nice holiday," or "Happy holidays" or "Enjoy your holiday" are "part of a campaign to take God and Jesus out of Christmas."
He argues that Christians shouldn't be offended and speculates that non-Christians aren't as easily offended if you wish them "Merry Christmas."
However, he also claims that saying "Happy Holidays" is a matter of politeness to non-Christians and as "a courtesy."
Finally, the author insinuates that Christians are responsible for the commercialization of Christmas and concludes it is "far too soon" to be wishing people "Merry Christmas" anyway.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051204/NEWS0201/512040327/1002/NEWS
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: happyholidays; postedtowrongforum
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To: Dustbunny
I can only go with what you tell me, here...
121
posted on
12/04/2005 3:59:00 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: ladyjane
TJMaxx won't put up Christmas signs. They have signs that say "Happy Holidays" and signs that say "Happy Hanukkah" but no mention of Christmas. I emailed them about it a week ago. No answer.
You actually expected an honest reply ? Awwww..
122
posted on
12/04/2005 4:45:16 PM PST
by
newfarm4000n
(God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
To: Torie
Atheist wasp ? do you even know what wasp actually stands for ?
123
posted on
12/04/2005 4:46:27 PM PST
by
newfarm4000n
(God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
To: newfarm4000n
Yes, I am a cultural WASP, just like the cultural Jew. I am sure you can handle it.
124
posted on
12/04/2005 4:47:12 PM PST
by
Torie
To: newfarm4000n
In his case it stands for White Anglo Saxon NearAtheist. He's not too good with abbreviations but he's a smart fellow nonetheless.
To: jwalsh07
Maybe WASPP. White Anglo Saxon Post Protestant. :)
126
posted on
12/04/2005 4:51:42 PM PST
by
Torie
To: jwalsh07
I'll take your word for it . Hey I got nothing against atheists. Just the activist ones.
127
posted on
12/04/2005 4:51:49 PM PST
by
newfarm4000n
(God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
To: newfarm4000n
Torie is a unique near atheist who recognizes the necessity for moral absolutes and religion in a successful society. Actually a pretty unique view and well thought out. I am a practicing Catholic with all that entails especially the right to life of unborn babies. Torie and I have become very good friends here at FR after a somewhat shaky start. :-}
Engage him on moral absolutes and a pluralist country. You won't be sorry you did.
To: Torie
To: jwalsh07
I Know many people who have different faiths ( not Islam) who willingly accept that America is a Christian country with Christian traditions . All they ask that in their private homes and meeting places they be free to give Ganesha a peanut. Thats perfect "multiculturalism" in my view.
130
posted on
12/04/2005 5:02:39 PM PST
by
newfarm4000n
(God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
To: jwalsh07
C can mean conservative, it can mean Christian, it can mean confused, it can mean convoluted, it can mean conflated, it can mean curmudgeon. You must mean the latter. :)
131
posted on
12/04/2005 5:02:44 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Torie
You must mean the latter. :) But of course. LOL
To: avile
Ramadan and Eid may be legitimate but kwanzaa is made up crap. Ramadan and eid lost their legitimacy sometime around 9/11/2001 if not a couple hundred be-headings and bombings before then.
133
posted on
12/04/2005 6:09:58 PM PST
by
Colorado Doug
(Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
To: khnyny; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh
BTW, Target this year had NO nativity scenes or anything remotely related to the birth of Christ. Maybe your Target was sold out.
I was in Target the other day in the "holiday" shop. They had Fontanini nativity scenes, along with plenty of plastic ones for your yard, and stars and even stained glass crosses for your tree.
134
posted on
12/04/2005 8:02:52 PM PST
by
Corin Stormhands
(Yea, tho I walk thru the valley of lie'brals ~ (Nanowrimo 2005 Winner!))
To: Gabz
I went to the other store today. It was a completely different atmosphere. They had all the Nativity scenes stacked up by the entrance. I talked with the manager about the wood ones. She thinks it is a regional thing. I guess I'm stuck with plastic. I'm still thinking about it. I bought some "Christmas " cards though. Cost me 200 dollars:')
To: ecurbh; khnyny; HairOfTheDog
From Target's website:
Fontanini My First Nativity Set I believe there are other Fontanini sets on the website, but they are not specifically identified as such.
136
posted on
12/04/2005 8:49:15 PM PST
by
Corin Stormhands
(Yea, tho I walk thru the valley of lie'brals ~ (Nanowrimo 2005 Winner!))
To: Corin Stormhands
I have a Nativity set that I place on my coffee table. It's ceramic and the paint is nice. I got it 3 or 4 years ago (at the dollar store:')
To: CindyDawg
Oops. 2 dollars. Not 200.
To: coconutt2000
"Happy Holidays" became un-Christian when it became offensive to the politically correct to use "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays" interchangeably. It is offensive when when it is used instead of Christmas just to offend people.
139
posted on
12/04/2005 9:58:50 PM PST
by
oldbrowser
(The U.S. Senate is a quagmire.)
To: CindyDawg
LOL!!!!
Glad I read further before commenting..........I had a goofy remark about your "$200" Christmas cards :)
140
posted on
12/05/2005 3:47:50 AM PST
by
Gabz
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