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NIST Physicists Coax Six Atoms Into Quantum 'Cat' State
Science Daily | National Institute of Standards and Technology ^
| 2005-12-03
Posted on 12/03/2005 10:24:55 PM PST by sourcery
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To: King Prout
Getting warmer. What if the sun and associated planetary disk as we know it is not the whole system? That's right, double stars are common as white rabbits in the winter.
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posted on
12/04/2005 12:31:06 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
To: sourcery
"Scientists at the Commerce Departments National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have coaxed six atoms into spinning together in two opposite directions at the same time, a so-called Schrödinger cat state that obeys the unusual laws of quantum physics." Outstanding! Poorly described, but outstanding.
102
posted on
12/04/2005 12:33:40 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Doctor Stochastic
x^3 + 1 = 0
x = -1
x + 1 = 0
x^3 + 1 = x + 1
ok... dithering further...
x^3 = x * x * x
so:
X^3 - x = (x * x * x) - x = x * x = x^2
ok, so:
if x = -1
then x^3 - x = x^3 -(-1) = x^3 + 1
problem:
if x = -1, then x^2 = 1
whereas
X^3 + 1 = -1 + 1 = 0
0 and 1 do not equate
so... where next?
103
posted on
12/04/2005 12:40:17 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: RightWhale
there is no "whole system" in the absolute sense unless one includes the WHOLE [expletve] universe.
less-than-absolute-patterns on a much smaller scale exist quite happily, nevertheless.
104
posted on
12/04/2005 12:42:14 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: King Prout
No. No foul. It's called "dividing out the root." It's only a foul for the specific value of x=-1; it's valid for all other values of x.
105
posted on
12/04/2005 12:46:45 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: King Prout
(x-1)(x**2+x+1)=x**3-1
(x+1)(x**2-x+1)=x**3+1
106
posted on
12/04/2005 12:48:55 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: sourcery
And this conflicts with the Bible how?
107
posted on
12/04/2005 12:52:51 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Doctor Stochastic
x^3 + 1 = 0
x = -1
x + 1 = 0
x^3 + 1 = x + 1
ok... dithering further...
x^3 = x * x * x
so:
X^3 - x = (x * x * x) - x = x * x = x^2
ok, so:
if x = -1
then x^3 - x = x^3 -(-1) = x^3 + 1
problem:
if x = -1, then x^2 = 1
whereas
X^3 + 1 = -1 + 1 = 0
0 and 1 do not equate
***
(x-1)(x**2+x+1)=x**3-1
(x+1)(x**2-x+1)=x**3+1
***
okers... dithering YET further...
(x+1)(x^2-x+1)=x^3+1
(x^2-x+1)=(x^3+1)/(x+1)
(x^2-x+1)=x^2+(1/(x+1))
x^2-x^2-x+1=x^2-x^2+(1/(x+1))
-x+1=1/(x+1)
-x=(1/(x+1)) -1
x=-((1/(x+1))-1)
um...
we're solving for "x" right?
108
posted on
12/04/2005 1:05:15 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: King Prout
there is no "whole system" in the absolute sense unless one includes the WHOLE [expletve] universe Include it
Divide by zero
Buffer overflow
109
posted on
12/04/2005 1:19:36 PM PST
by
RightWhale
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To: onedoug
And this conflicts with the Bible how?Don't know. Have you stopped beating your wife lately?
Note: My question is as well motivated by what you have said so far as yours was by what I had said previously.
110
posted on
12/04/2005 1:21:20 PM PST
by
sourcery
(Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
To: RightWhale
but... but... simple algebra is already taxing my prematurely senescent wits!
111
posted on
12/04/2005 1:23:57 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: King Prout
Use the quadratic formula or completing the square. (QV)
112
posted on
12/04/2005 1:24:57 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Doctor Stochastic
I don't remember how.
*sheepish*
113
posted on
12/04/2005 1:26:17 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: King Prout
Transcend algebra! It is supposedly a closed and complete pattern, yet there appear a few illegal operations. Euclid never had a problem with geometric figures. It wasn't until Descartes reformulated the geometry with algebraic coordinates for increased power and effectiveness [use the Force, Luke] that the possibility of the Dark Side appeared.
114
posted on
12/04/2005 1:32:41 PM PST
by
RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
thank Darth for the Dark Side - the universe would be so boring without it
115
posted on
12/04/2005 1:38:40 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: sourcery
"Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"That ain't Biblical, at all.
116
posted on
12/04/2005 1:41:29 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Servant of the 9
Electrons do not move from one orbit to another of an atom, but disapear one place and appear instantaneously in another orbit. The planetary model of electron behavior is not valid. It would be more accurate to say that electrons vibrate at one frequency, then suddenly without passage of time vibrate at a different frequency. There's no "movement" to another "orbit." There's no inconsistency.
117
posted on
12/04/2005 1:41:56 PM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: King Prout
There must be three. The Dark Side, the Good Side, and the Clueless Civilians. Otherwise, if there are only two, you get something like the American Two-party system blocking, stagnating and drifting toward the edge of the Abyss.
118
posted on
12/04/2005 1:46:06 PM PST
by
RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
"Good" side, dark side, sheeple side, fireside, seaside
there are lots of sides.
and none.
it all depends on your point of view.
119
posted on
12/04/2005 1:47:47 PM PST
by
King Prout
(many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
To: onedoug
That ain't Biblical, at all.2 + 2 = 4.
120
posted on
12/04/2005 1:56:08 PM PST
by
sourcery
(Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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