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GOP Angry over Schwarzenegger Pick
Newsmax ^ | Friday, Dec. 2, 2005 3:22 p.m. EST | Carl Limbacher/Staff

Posted on 12/03/2005 11:25:15 AM PST by Kenny Bunk

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To: DoughtyOne
I would have expected to see a lot of posts supporting those propositions if folks were supportive

Point well taken.

However the statement was: "He received praise when he challenged the status quo of political districting."

That was not a reference to the proposition that eventually emerged (Prop 77) which was convoluted and wobbly but still received broad support from conservatives.

The propositions that the Austrian originally promulgated were fairly conservative but alas, all contained legally challangeable language or could be construed as "third rail" and all were abandoned. The Austrian was left to cherry pick, as best he could, legislation authored by the Wilson gang (Prop 74, 75, 76 and 77). None were of the quality of his originals and all contained the obligatory special interest clauses of their authors; lenders, big business, and anti taxers. The same group that financed his recall campaign and the special election.

For the most part, conservatives supported Prop 74, 75 and 77 but none were enthusiastic. Prop 76 was roundly criticized by both the right and the left, as a collection of special interest protections that benefited the authors instead of the electorate.

81 posted on 12/03/2005 4:27:26 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: DoughtyOne
When it came to the proposition recently, I didn't run into endless threads praising him or voicing support for them... I would have expected to see a lot of posts supporting those propositions if folks were supportive.

D1, you seem to be making the assumption that all of the initiatives deserved support. Props 73 through 75 got my support and I put it in my tagline for over a month. If propositions 76 or 77 had been proposed by McClintock or Bustamante, I still would have opposed them. The devil was in the details--and they were not an improvement over today.

82 posted on 12/03/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Amerigomag
No one saw any reason to vote. After the election, we found out the economy was on the upswing. See - people's judgments are usually better than the politicians. They get it right most of the time.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

83 posted on 12/03/2005 4:31:44 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
Things have to get so bad before I'll vote for a radical fix and these were milequetoast patches at the margins. California would have been kept together by more gum and baling wire. Heck been there, done that was the electorate's attitude. Show us a real crisis and give us real reforms.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

84 posted on 12/03/2005 4:34:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
But we're fortunate he can hardly do more harm in what is after all a very Blue State.

But we're fortunate he can hardly do more harm in what is after all a very Blue State legislature.

A reminder that this very Blue State kicked Davis (over Kennedy's shenanigans) out of office.

85 posted on 12/03/2005 4:37:59 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: doodlelady

I would support "unity of priniciple" if those principles do not deviate from the platform of the party in which the candidate chooses to belong. Things like the right to bear arms, private property rights, limited government, etc. When a candidate does not embrace these principles, do you still expect "unity"?

Unfortunately, as some have abandoned principle, looking only for a candidate that can "win," the CA GOP seems to have revised their platform leftward. For example, their new statement on illegal immigration makes it sound like "if the feds pay, all are welcome."

http://www.cagop.org/


86 posted on 12/03/2005 4:45:49 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: goldstategop
After the election, we found out the economy was on the upswing

Implying to the lazy electorate that so were the state's finances. Unfortunately nothing is further from the truth.

3 weeks ago McClintock warned the Austrian "Whatever the Governor does in response to the election, it is imperative that he levels with the people on the actual fiscal condition of the state"

Yet the Austrian offered no explanations of reality when the LAO released her report, steeped in convention and restrictions, showing a "surplus" for 2005-2006. I don't know the Austrian's motives for his silence but I suspect it was to perpetuate the myth, among the less financially sophisticated electorate, that California was now rolling in cash (due to his policies and efforts) and that the financial crisis was over (due to his diligence and foresight).

87 posted on 12/03/2005 4:53:26 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl
For example, their new statement on illegal immigration makes it sound like "if the feds pay, all are welcome.

Got a more specific URL? Thanks.

88 posted on 12/03/2005 4:58:17 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Kenny Bunk
Simply stated:

What goes around comes around.

89 posted on 12/03/2005 5:00:47 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: calcowgirl
I would support "unity of priniciple"...

It's always telling when the spelling is off.

90 posted on 12/03/2005 5:07:16 PM PST by b9
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To: GVnana; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
Well... Another country heard from in GV! Why on Earth are you saying it didn't happen? Did GVgirl put you up to challenging my assertions??? Are you trying to pull my covers??? Tell me what you think took place, nana...

Dan! Was this just hearsay? Did you or someone else just make it up? As shakey as my memory is getting, I'm beginning to wonder if any of this episode was published anywhere so's I can back this story up!!! Help!!! Anybody!!! I'm scared!!!(wimper)

91 posted on 12/03/2005 5:11:39 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Sierra,

We've covered this ground before. I even posted a copy of the bylaws and the changes made in Feb election.

No one else was running for governor. No one else announced a candidacy. No one was prevented from doing so during the February convention. It didn't happen. There's no there, there.

92 posted on 12/03/2005 5:17:48 PM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Amerigomag

It must run off java or something. The only URL that shows is http://www.cagop.org/. From there, look at the left sidebar under "your party," then "party platform" then "immigration." It says:

The CRP recognizes that our country is enriched with the vast influence of immigrants from all over the world who have come to the United States of America for the unlimited opportunities, freedom and prosperity offered to every working citizen.

We support and welcome all legal immigrants and others who are here by due process and are productive, law-abiding citizens. In fairness to them, we oppose the tide of illegal immigration and support federal efforts to stem it. We further support the disbursement of federal funds to California to pay for federally mandated immigration programs and termination of the legal requirement for non-emergency assistance to illegal immigrants.


93 posted on 12/03/2005 5:22:04 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp; GVgirl

The Daily News of Los Angeles

February 14, 2005 Monday

GOVERNATOR GOP'S FAST CHOICE FOR '06

By David M. Drucker Sacramento Bureau

California Republicans on Sunday formally endorsed Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's candidacy, signaling his intention to run for re-election in 2006 and squashing any chance for a legitimate GOP challenger.

Schwarzenegger has yet to announce his re-election plans, but that didn't stop the California Republican Party from adopting a rules change enabling the organization to endorse a candidate before the emergence of a victor in the party's June primary election.

By endorsing the governor now, the party can immediately begin raising money to aid his re-election, rather than wait until just five months before the November 2006 contest to promote his bid.

``All the guns are pointed toward the other team, which is where we want them to point,'' said party Vice Chairman Ron Nehring. ``We are united and ready to move forward.''

Schwarzenegger's endorsement was nearly unanimous, but for a tiny smattering of ``nay'' shouts among the 1,288 party delegates who voted by proclamation Sunday morning on the final day of their annual spring convention. The motion to endorse the politically moderate governor was carried by two conservative state legislators.

Assemblyman Chuck DeVore of Irvine seconded the endorsement motion by urging fellow Republicans to ``get on the train'' - a reference to a line from Schwarzenegger's speech to party activists on Friday, when he likened his agenda to a ``train that has left the station'' and advised opponents to ``join and jump on the train, go and stay behind and just wave, or get in front of the train, and you know what happens then.''

State Sen. Bob Dutton, R-Rancho Cucamonga, said the endorsement also lets the governor know party activists and elected officials are eager for him to run for re-election. ``This sends a message that the Republican Party is solidly, 100 percent behind Gov. Schwarzenegger and his agenda,'' Dutton said.

Schwarzenegger has repeatedly declined to comment on his re-election plans, but his deputy chief of staff, Cassandra Pye, used her remarks to party delegates to thank them ``on behalf of my boss'' for their endorsement.

Campaign finance laws prevent political parties from working for a candidate's campaign without a formal endorsement, so Sunday's action clears the way for Schwarzenegger's political team to cooperate with the state party to raise money for his candidacy and tout his agenda.

Depending on the outcome of the primary election for other statewide offices, the Republican ticket in 2006 could include two San Fernando Valley-area Republicans, as Sen. Tom McClintock of Thousand Oaks is running for lieutenant governor and Assemblyman Keith Richman of Granada Hills is running for treasurer.

``I can already see a very strong Republican ticket reversing the bad election we had in 2002,'' said former Assemblyman Tony Strickland, R-Moorpark.

February 16, 2005


94 posted on 12/03/2005 5:22:13 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan
Help! I'm having a cognitive crisis here!! Can you find any of those threads from last February during the CAGOP convention? Wasn't it right in Sacramento? Did I dream the whole thing? I'm feeling like I'm in the twilight zone!

I'm off to see if I bookmarked any of them myself. I doubt I did... I can still remember Dan clarifying what was going on right after it happened!!!

95 posted on 12/03/2005 5:22:24 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Uh oh I pinged the wrong GV. Now the really cranky one is going to show up on this thread -- sorry everyone.


96 posted on 12/03/2005 5:24:09 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: doodlelady
It's always telling when the spelling is off.

???

We were speaking of principles, not principals, were we not?
(See your original comment at post #73)

97 posted on 12/03/2005 5:25:11 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: GVnana
OH! IT'S YOU, GIRL!!!

That was sneaky and low of you to do that to me!!! You blew my mind with that sneaky, mean little trick!!! (grin)

98 posted on 12/03/2005 5:25:45 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Now you've done it.


99 posted on 12/03/2005 5:26:02 PM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: SierraWasp

LOL! Now don't take it personal...


100 posted on 12/03/2005 5:26:43 PM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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