Posted on 12/03/2005 11:05:50 AM PST by presidio9
My point was really the opposite of the above, it was that dolphins have an affinity for people. They like us, and, as I pointed out earlier in the thread, many stories of them saving humans, pushing them to shore, etc. are true. The only other creature I know of that does similar things is the domesticated dog, which may be less intelligent than the dolphin.
All those poisonous critters that people like aren't even close to being in the same class with dolphins and dogs. BTW, most turtles have 13 plates on their shells, one for each of the original 13 colonies ;-)
"while I agree that it's rational to like certain animals, I think it's going overboard to respect any animal."
I may be using the word "respect" in a different sense than you, but IMO all living creatures are deserving of respect. 'Course, that does not prevent us from eating some of them, but I don't think dolphins should be among those that we consume.
I want to put in my qualifier again - I don't recognize the species of dolphin pictured, so can't say if they specifically are the intelligent ones that like people.
However dolphins have been loved and respected by humanity for thousands of years, I don't think it behooves us conservatives to treat that so lightly, without good reason. Instead, I think it to be one of those traditions conservatives should honor, in spite of the fact that politically correct leftists are trying to preempt it for mercenary reasons.
LOL!...Take That PETA/ELF/LIBERALS. :D
Flipper
They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!
Everyone loves the king of the sea,
Ever so kind and gentle is he,
Tricks he will do when children appear,
And how they laugh when he's near!
They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!
A dolphin bashing thread is the last thing I expected. I know that it's mostly joking, but still.
I've been on the water off and on most of my life, professionally at times. I've yet to meet anyone that didn't love dolphins, until here. Very weird. I guess, as you say, it's a knee jerk reaction. Maybe they are city folks.
I guess everyone is joking. Probably I'm getting upset for no reason. Thanks!
I certainly agree with you Sam!
And I certainly don't agree with dsc, who thinks it preposterous that "People have even waxed sentimental over grizzly bears". or that "it's going overboard to respect any animal". As he says.
I think that the disrespect of the natural world, or callous and willful destruction of it, is in no way a value I would call 'conservative'. It is our responsibility, and our reward, to preserve a spot on this planet for things that are not of man.
Probably a prerequisite for our survival too, I imagine. Also, judging by this thread, for our mental health ;-)
There's a lot of people who use threads on environmental or animal concerns to demonstrate their God given right to piss on whatever they want in the name of some human superiority over animals, as if that's even the point.
I think these kinds of internet posts are the equivalent of the boys in school who used to pull the legs off things just to upset the girls in the school yard.
But judging from your tagline, you don't condemn slaughtering babies?
Your moral outrage is extremely subjective. It's okay for "you" to do these things but "you" condemn the industry for doing it even though that industry keeps people from starving to death.
You might have a mental disorder...
It's akin to those folks on welfare who are given free housing, only to destroy it and transform it into hellholes.
Seems to me that when God gave Adam jurisdiction over all the living things on the Earth, it was to care for them, not so that Adam could just tear everything to bits.
We might all have mental disorders, but you probably aren't qualified to make that diagnosis, and what does that have to do with the thread anyway?
If you can't make your point without resorting to ad hominem attacks, you must not have had much of a point to begin with.
girlangler, dolphins are not fish.
Didn't you even read what this person wrote? It is in direct opposition to your tagline. And judging by his tagline, he has a clear agenda here.
Sometimes there are no points to be made to fools other than the obvious one...
Agreed. I disagree with willful and malicious destruction of natural resources but that is a vast difference from what the PETA poster was referring to, i.e. "farming" of animals for human consumption.
Whew, glad we cleared that up.
What are they?
She called it "factory farming." I had supposed she was not referring to the family type farms such as many of us grew up on where livestock was pastured, but to the types of farms (I have heard of) where calves are forced to live their entire lives out in small boxes, that type of thing. Amimal slaughter, though perhaps necessary for our health and life, seems cruel enough without adding to it, IMO. That may well have been her point.
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