Posted on 12/03/2005 11:05:50 AM PST by presidio9
"It's a little more info than I wanted,"
Sorry about that, but you did mention it first.
Yes of course you are right, the males are always ready to go, and fight when the time is ripe. But it just doesn't happen unless the female is in estrus. She holds all the cards in her dumb way, but can only acquiesce when fertile. This is not the case with humans or dolphins. That is the gift: 24/7 female receptiveness. That is the unique point of departure, once considered a gift only enjoyed by humans, so I say the implications are enormous.
Wrong. There are other species which engage in recreational sex. Bonobos for example are much more sexually active than we are.
Someone got the one hubby was after, you snooze, you loose. At least I won't have to spend hours canning and freezing. < G >
Yes, I agree that the implications are enormous. I was just kind of joking with my other post, anyway.
Now that I think of it, as a deer hunter I am perfectly aware that testosterone levels in bucks do change fairly drastically during the course of the year, being high during the fall, and very low after New Years, when they also lose their antlers. Not so with dogs, of course.
I'm kind of amazed that no one else seems to agree that dolphins are special - I've always figured that "liberal" love of nature is fake and put on, while us conservatives are the ones who truly love and appreciate it. Wrong once again, apparently.
"You may not remember the huge Japanese fishing fleets, which included factory ships, that used to decimate fish stocks off New England. They may not be in New England anymore, but they continue to pretty much fish the living hell out of the seas worldwide. Who knows what the answer is in this case, but the fact that fishing stocks might be depleted by Japanese wouldn't be a surprise either."
I'm aware of that - I was just pointing out that the standard he held for what he criticized - no study about this particular issue - is not the same he used for his own unfortunate statement. I personally don't care if they eat whales or anything else for that matter.
"I'm kind of amazed that no one else seems to agree that dolphins are special"
Hey, I like dolphins, but people are more important.
I'm sorry you feel so strongly about our cetaceous mammalian friends, their "sexually liberated "lifestyle, etc. I guess they are a unique species, but the very best of a hundred of them isn't worth one of the worst of us.
And if you hadn't gotten so sanctimonious about it, I wouldn't be telling you this:
Pluperfect doesn't mean what you think it means, and Elcid didn't say it WAS a mammal. Read his post.
I agree. It's just that with their high intelligence and their affinity for us, I feel like dolphins deserve extra respect, especially from us conservatives.
You're right, it was just an unsupported guess. I thought it reasonable, but he should have made clear that it was a guess.
I find it highly ironic that the head dolphin captivity slave master, Ric O'Barry (or in Japanese..LicObelly), who held back food from Flipper until he cackled at his beck and call, would become so incensed by this mercy killing.
I also wonder how many Senators voted on Resolution 99 thinking they were prohibiting Crawdads from being boiled to death. ergo "Resolution 99...Expressing the sense of the Senate to condemn the inhumane and unnecessary slaughter of small cetaceans"
Mahi Mahi is a fish called dolphin, not the mammal.
I Understand tom-cats love sex. Next thing I know you will want me to throw away all my good recipes for Arroz Y' Gato, Or Chili con Gato. Then there is Eichkatz mit sos'e. Granted the last one is Squirrel but then cat can be substituted.
There was a woman in my favorite deli the other day with a PETA shirt and the usual gross eyebrow piercings, ordering some fart-inducing vegetarian crap. I asked the sandwich man for "tuna-free dolphin". He said I must have meant the other way around. I insisted I wanted dolphin and didn't like tuna to spoil the flavor. My fake order had its intended effect. The human-hating dyke unleashed on me about how "insensitive" I was, how dolphins are "as smart as people" and how cruel it is to kill and eat any animals. On that last overreaching point of hers she drew other meat-lovers into the mix, to her great embarrassment. I despise those people and enjoy making fools of them in public any chance I get.
You're my kind of person. I envy you the opportunity to pee off a peta twit. LOL
"It's just that with their high intelligence and their affinity for us, I feel like dolphins deserve extra respect, especially from us conservatives."
You're entitled to that opinion, but I can't forget that people develop an affinity for all kinds of creatures.
I once wandered into what was labeled a "pet store" in Japan, and it was like a house of horrors to me. Spiders, snakes, poisonous centipedes, lizards...the only things that looked halfway like pets to me were the smuggled tortoises, whaddaya call'em, they have a geometric pattern on their shell?
They even had mamushi in there.
People have even waxed sentimental over grizzly bears.
I have no problem with people shuddering and not wanting to eat certain things. I do it, too. Got queasy at the sight of dog meat in Korean butcher stalls. Get really queasy when they bring something to the table here in Japan that's not only raw, but still alive.
In the end, though, they're animals, and while I agree that it's rational to like certain animals, I think it's going overboard to respect any animal.
If the dolphins are so brilliant, why haven't they figured out to stay out of that area after so many generations?
I've been really amazed at some of the posts on this thread as well. I would have thought there were more people here who realized how special dolphins were, and that although they live in the ocean, they are not fish.
I also thought there would be more people here familiar with Japanese fishing practices, but I think there's just a kneejerk reaction with some people if anything remotely related to PETA is mentioned. No thought, just kneejerk.
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