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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Tony is right on target with this one. Way to go Tony.

How many posts will it take until the Bushbots and party-uber-alles RINO enablers start attacking Tony Snow? I say, within the first 20 responses.

Who knows, he may even figure out the Paradox of Incumbency. Politicians who run just to protect incumbency may save their seats, but only by destroying their party's heart and soul. If you really want to build lasting power in politics, you need to forget about mere incumbency -- and remember the principles that got you elected in the first place.

Just as I've said for years, even to my local Republican Party leaders: "For what does it profit a party to win the election but lose its soul?"

7 posted on 12/03/2005 6:33:13 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

It probably won't take many posts at all. And we'll hear the mantra "I'll never listen to Tony again." Etc.

I can't tell you how many of us got snotty comments because we were discouraged that the president wasn't defending himself against the left's malicious lies and dared to post about it. It was ridiculous. I've never seen so many supposed smart conservatives actually think there was no reason for the president to defend himself. It was like lying was just A-OK.


20 posted on 12/03/2005 6:41:31 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Spiff
How many posts will it take until the Bushbots and party-uber-alles RINO enablers start attacking Tony Snow? I say, within the first 20 responses.

Looks like it only took 14 posts. You win the big cee-gar!

21 posted on 12/03/2005 6:44:24 AM PST by CAluvdubya (SAN DIEGO SUPPORT THE TROOPS RALLY, Dec 4th. 11:30 - 1:30 FReepmail for location)
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To: Spiff
Just as I've said for years, even to my local Republican Party leaders: "For what does it profit a party to win the election but lose its soul?"

Here is the problem:

They started consulting pollsters to assay "correct" issues and positions. They played it safe -- or so they thought.

The political consultants know the tricks to getting elected and they want to round off any rough edges and eliminate as many objections as possible. They have no interest in philosophy or values, that is not their job. (Dick Morris is an excellent example.) Their job is to get their candidate elected.

It is the candidates job to direct the consultants rather than to give in and let them direct him. To get elected, they let the tail wag the dog, and it stays that way. It is human nature but it is not leadership..

53 posted on 12/03/2005 7:11:47 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Spiff
And why, exactly, do you think it necessary to start provoking the Bush supporters?

I happen to agree with Tony. I was very disappointed that CFR was signed, and I think the Senate especially has too many cowards.

269 posted on 12/03/2005 5:59:35 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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