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"It is a pattern that is being carried out by policymakers at the highest levels of our government, and it is time to ask why."

Time, and past time.

1 posted on 12/03/2005 3:44:29 AM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

so, how did they keep the other countries intel quiet?


2 posted on 12/03/2005 4:06:27 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: strategofr
Bush administration officials ordered Lt. Col. Schaffer's duplicate Able Danger files destroyed in 2004

All the reports I've read so far, say the "destruction of Able Dangers Papers" during Bush Admin were procedural (SOP), rather than directly ordered destroyed. Hmm.

3 posted on 12/03/2005 4:29:35 AM PST by Alia
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To: strategofr

It troubled me to read the above piece. There are so many accounts of the Able Danger matter. Louis Freeh wrote a piece on it in the Wall Street Journal. In the last paragraph he says:

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Arlen Specter, has led the way in cleaning up the 9/11 Commission's unfinished business. Amid a very full plate of responsibilities, he conducted a hearing after noting that Col. Shaffer and Capt. Phillpott "appear to have credibility." Himself a former prosecutor, Mr. Specter noted: "If Mr. Atta and other 9/11 terrorists were identified before the attacks, it would be a very serious breach not to have that information passed along . . . we ought to get to the bottom of it." Indeed we should. The 9/11 Commission gets an "I" grade--incomplete--for its dereliction regarding Able Danger. The Joint Intelligence Committees should reconvene and, in addition to Able Danger team members, we should have the 9/11 commissioners appear as witnesses so the families can hear their explanation why this doesn't matter.

The paragraph begs answers. It also tells me Jamie Gorelick was on the wrong side of the table during the hearings.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559


4 posted on 12/03/2005 4:30:27 AM PST by Stars&StripesNE (My Daughter, My Hero, My Soldier, My Friend)
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5 posted on 12/03/2005 4:31:47 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The FAIRTAX. A powerplay for We The People.)
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ping


7 posted on 12/03/2005 4:45:20 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: strategofr

Makes me a firm believer in conspiracies. Both the Sleeze president and the "Christian" President are stonewalling this huge scandal.


9 posted on 12/03/2005 5:11:04 AM PST by RoadTest (A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. - Proverbs 25:11)
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To: strategofr
This much we do know: first, the Clinton administration in 2000 and then the Bush administration in 2001 failed to heed the Able Danger warnings on al-Qaeda. Moreover, Clinton administration officials ordered the main Able Danger files destroyed in 2000; Bush administration officials ordered Lt. Col. Schaffer's duplicate Able Danger files destroyed in 2004. Both the Clinton administration and the Bush administration have attempted to cover up the existence of Able Danger and its findings. The official, bipartisan 9/11 Commission also covered up the existence of this operation and its findings. In recent months, members of the Able Danger team who have spoken out have been subjected to official harassment and intimidation. Considerable effort is being expended by Donald Rumsfeld's minions in the Defense Department to keep all information about this operation under wraps.

I will be sick if the Bush administration has truly had a hand in ordering documents destroyed. Clinton covered up so many things, and that's something I never thought this president would do. For what purpose?

11 posted on 12/03/2005 6:30:17 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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placemarker


15 posted on 12/03/2005 8:45:28 AM PST by longshadow
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To: strategofr

There is NOTHING about 'Able Danger' which concludes that the "War on Terror" is a farce.

Able Danger may be an incompetence cover-up, but it is NO FACTOR in the validaty of the war on terror.


16 posted on 12/03/2005 8:52:33 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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FYI. In addition, I made an extensive comment, no. 19




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20 posted on 12/03/2005 10:38:44 AM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

BTTT


26 posted on 12/03/2005 2:51:09 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: strategofr
What's really tough to swallow ... the 911 Commission is still issuing opinions and advice. Today (Saturday) an AP article appeared in our local paper with the heading '911 panel still finds much wrong with security revamp'. This discredited bunch of pompous, arrogant, pontificating assh**** are still taking swipes at Bush; in this article (are you ready?) 'the U.S. is not doing enough to ensure that foreign nations are upgrading security measures to stop proliferation of nuclear, biological and chemical materials'.
Give me a break ...
34 posted on 12/03/2005 4:59:54 PM PST by BluH2o
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Lookie here. The continuity of coverup and conspiracy from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration to suppress Able Danger follows a disturbing pattern that is demonstrated in these cases directly related to 9/11
40 posted on 12/03/2005 10:14:33 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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