[toddrundgrenisgod]

History will show that BJ Clinton destroyed the Democratic party in our time.

Clinton's triangulation mumbo jumbo and John Kerry's impenetrably tortured logic have created a groundswell on the left for a standard barer with solid liberal positions.

Frankly, I can't blame them.

[goresalooza]

Well said. klintune ruined them and I'm loving it! LOL